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        <title>A Plea to My Shepherds</title>
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        <description>... I would exhort these, my fellow conservative evangelical shepherds and thinkers, to set aside all reticence and fear, emerge from anonymity, and storm the forum of discourse, engaging this most pressing matter with vigor, equanimity, and humility. In doing so, know upfront that there will be few handrails to guide; you will not be building upon an extensive precedence of published conservative thought.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I mentioned in my <a href="http://biologos.org/blog/scripture-vs-the-facts-working-through-a-crisis-of-understanding/">last post</a>, I’m deeply troubled by my fellow conservative evangelicals’ skepticism – even hostility – towards much of modern science, and believe that barring change, this disposition will prove spiritually catastrophic to our children and grandchildren, who are today being taught that assertions of an ancient universe and macro-evolution are unequivocally incompatible with the Cross of Christ, and tomorrow will enroll in universities that powerfully demonstrate the integrity of these scientific claims, thereby setting the stage for devastating crises of faith for countless thousands of young believers.</p>

<p>That said, I genuinely empathize with those who are reluctant to abandon traditional theological concepts for newer, still- developing ones. Given spiritual leaders’ biblical mandate to protect their families and congregations against error, a responsibility for which God will hold them strictly accountable (James 3:1), I respect their refusal to expose their flock to ideologies they regard as conflicting with the Word of God.</p>

<p>I further understand pastors and theologians’ resistance to tethering theology—which is meant to provide a solid epistemological foundation—too closely to that intrinsically dynamic endeavor called science. All humans need ideological stability, perhaps especially so with respect to spiritual matters. Recognizing this, pastors rightly ask why they should abandon or substantially revise an internally-consistent systematic theology that has served the church with relative stability for many hundreds of years. Science, on the other hand, is a realm for adventurers, groundbreakers, and ideological athletes intent on not just polishing or expanding today’s body of knowledge, but shattering it when necessary. Resounding with the jousts and clashes of competing ideas and arguments, and the stunning reversals of ideas once widely held, science often appears to be a messy–even tumultuous–business. Spiritual shepherds are insistent that the epistemological dynamism that necessarily characterizes science never become the mainstay of the Christian experience, which must be fundamentally stable and dependable. They see wisdom in maintaining a safe distance between the Church and the choppy waters of science.</p>

<p>The question, then, is whether the waters of scientific thought, particularly with respect to the age of the earth and evolution, have sufficiently smoothed out to warrant conservative thinkers’ taking a deeper look. Of course, the catch-22 here is that this can’t be answered without actually embarking upon an expedition of exploration and investigation, much as I recently did. Once undertaken, however, the conservative explorer will likely be confronted by a formidable problem:</p>

<p>As I can personally attest, navigating the crowded forum of wildly-differing ideas as to how to resolve the faith-science divide can be terribly daunting. Making this especially disconcerting for the conservative is the sobering reality that amidst the chorus of conflicting theories, one finds very little <em>substantive</em> published input from respected conservative theologians. As a result, the conservative seeker is sure to find herself awash in an ocean of seemingly novel theological “solutions” that are fundamentally antithetical to her evangelical sensibilities. This is likely to result in the impression that there is in fact no way to reconcile the findings of modern science with the key doctrines of orthodox Christianity, and hence the termination of the endeavor. Not only was this dynamic a constant challenge to me, but has proved a stumbling block to many would-be seekers that I personally know.</p>

<p>Whence then change? I believe the breakthrough will begin with a particular subgroup of conservative evangelical pastors, elders, and theologians. I know firsthand that there are many who, truth be told, have not been entirely at peace with their fellow conservatives’ summary rejection of—and apologias against—the findings of mainstream science. They have a gnawing sense that devastation looms for the Church and her children unless detachment yields to engagement, and rhetoric to substance. These have likely admitted to themselves that despite stridently asserting anti-evolution/old-earth views, they actually don’t understand these views in depth (nearly every conservative pastor and elder I’ve spoken with has conceded this). To date, these shepherds and thinkers have remained silent about their misgivings, reluctant to be perceived by their congregations and peers as betraying true Christianity. Given the astonishing fruitfulness of modern science and the comparative barrenness of young-earth creationism, I believe these evangelical leaders may now finally regard themselves as justified in stepping forward and publicly questioning whether the latter is in fact the view that a truth-revealing God would have His people believe.</p>

<p>Indeed, if I may, I would exhort these, my fellow conservative evangelical shepherds and thinkers, to set aside all reticence and fear, emerge from anonymity, and storm the forum of discourse, engaging this most pressing matter with vigor, equanimity, and humility. In doing so, know upfront that there will be few handrails to guide; you will not be building upon an extensive precedence of published conservative thought. Rather, you will be pioneers, with the open prairie of contemplation and consideration before you and the Word of God as a faithful, orienting star. The journey will be at times confounding, often scary, and never without challenge. Yet only through such robust, self-critical analysis will you find yourself in a posture where God can correct and refine all that He would, and only after which will you be able to pass on to your flocks a cogent, truly harmonious portrait of our Lord and His Creation that finds rich consistency between His written and natural revelations. I firmly believe that the fuller, more deeply informed portrait of the Lord and His universe that emerges from this investigation will fill your congregations with an unprecedented new sense of awe at our beloved God as Creator, and profoundly enhance their worship of Him. This has certainly been the result of my own journey.</p>
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        <dc:creator>Stephen Blake</dc:creator>
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        <title>A Scientific Commentary on Genesis 7:11</title>
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        <description>Although committed to the principle of sola Scriptura, Calvin recognized that the Bible would have been written in terms its original recipients would have understood. Calvin inherited the medieval cosmology of his time, a way of viewing the world heavily influenced by Greek thought and one which was about to receive shocks from astronomers such as Copernicus and Galileo. But not just yet.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Genesis 7:11</strong>: In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened.</p>

<p><strong>Genesis 8:1</strong>: But God remembered Noah and all the wild animals and all the domestic animals that were with him in the ark. And God made a wind blow over the earth, and the waters subsided; 2 the fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained, 3 and the waters gradually receded from the earth.</p>

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<p>The Flood narrative of Genesis 7-9 has played a prominent role in science and religion debates for over three hundred years and gave rise in earlier centuries to geological theories such as old earth catastrophism. While literary studies have uncovered the chiastic structure of the Flood story (see Gordon Wenham, “The Coherence of the Flood Narrative” Vetus Testamentum 28 (1978):336-48) and with it the theological pivot point of the entire narrative (Gen. 8:1 – “And God remembered Noah…), much of the popular attention remains on the questions regarding details (Is there THAT much water in the world to cover ALL the mountains to a depth of 15 cubits? Could you really fit two or seven of every animal species in an ark that size?) </p>

<p>Looking at a smaller matter, we find at the beginning and the middle of the narrative indications of an ancient Near Eastern worldview. As the story is told, the flood was not merely the result of excessive rain, but actually the convergence of the waters above the earth with the waters below the earth. It is, as one translation puts it, as if the sluice gates at the deep and of the heavens were thrown open and water poured in from above and below. This is a consistent picture from the Old Testament of a three-tiered universe—a dome above the earth holding back the heavenly waters, a flat earth with water on its surface, and water under an earth which is held up by pillars. </p>

<p>That the story is told using the cosmology of its time should not be unduly unsettling, nor that the story is reinterpreted as new understandings of the universe come into favor. By way of example, consider John Calvin and his understanding of the structure of the universe. Although committed to the principle of sola Scriptura, Calvin recognized that the Bible would have been written in terms its original recipients would have understood.   </p>

<p>Calvin inherited the medieval cosmology of his time, a way of viewing the world heavily influenced by Greek thought and one which was about to receive shocks from astronomers such as Copernicus and Galileo. But not just yet. Calvin still subscribed to the common conception of his day in which the four elements—earth, air, fire, and water—comprised the earthly sphere and possessed unique characteristics. The nature of air and fire was to rise, while the nature of earth and water is to sink.  Earth, being heavier than water, should sink to the center of the cosmos and water should compose the next layer. Both earth and water are spherical, i.e., naturally form spherically around the cosmic center. Thus the heavier spherical element of earth should be encased entirely within the lighter spherical element of water.</p>

<p>Notice what this does to the flood story. For Calvin, the amazing thing is that the world isn’t constantly under water and subject to flooding. In the cosmology of Calvin’s day, it does not take an act of God to cause a universal flood, but rather an actively present and restraining hand of God to keep the waters back in everyday circumstances and make inundation by water something other than universal. </p>

<p>Obviously, Calvin was wrong. Or perhaps we should say that medieval cosmology was flawed and justifiably gave way to new conceptions of the universe. The answer is not to return to an ancient Near Eastern cosmology, but to reinterpret cautiously within new and better cosmologies and to pay closest attention to the text and the theology of scripture.  </p>

<p>The geological and planetary sciences bring their own unique contributions and are of more interest than the latest expedition to discover the ark on Mt. Ararat. Is the flood story a universalization of a catastrophic regional event that burned itself into the psyche of ancient cultures in the Mediterranean basin? Various theories regarding a Black Sea venue for a catastrophic flood event are still in process of being sorted out. It’s intriguing. Or the question where the water on Planet Earth comes from? Was it always here as an emanation of vapors from the earth’s crust in its early formation, or has it accumulated over eons through the steady bombardment of earth by small, icy comets? It’s an intriguing scientific question that is in the midst of determination through testing.</p>

<h3>Preaching Suggestions</h3>

<p>When preaching on the story of the Flood, it is easy to get lost in the debates over particulars. As mentioned elsewhere, to tackle all the peripheral issues threatens to turn a sermon into a geology lecture. Other settings are better suited to addressing those questions, and those are best addressed open-endedly. </p>

<p>A brief explanation of ancient Near Eastern cosmology can be helpful to contextualize the story. If there are those who are tempted to think that a cosmology embedded in the Bible must be inspired and definitive, one can note that cosmology has changed by the New Testament. The Bible itself isn’t wed to a particular structure of the universe. </p>

<p>What is important is to keep the theology of the text front and center, and in that theology there are at least three non-negotiables from the flood narrative. First, human sin and violence threatens to undo a good creation (the flood is a de-creation event, a return of the waters mentioned in Genesis 1:2). Second, God remembers Noah, and never forgets his promises. Third, the end of the flood is a covenant with the whole earth regarding the stability and endurance of the natural order.
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        <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 13 08:00:43 -0800</pubDate>
        <dc:creator>Rolf Bouma</dc:creator>
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        <title>Series: It&apos;s an Old World After All</title>
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        <description>In our sixth BioLogos videocast, we take a look at the age of the Earth. We explain four methods scientists have used to determine that age: tree ring, lake varve, radiometric, and seafloor spread dating, and also offer some theological insight on how an old earth can fit with the first chapters of Genesis.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our last Videocast, we explored some of the ways scientists have been able to determine the age of hominid fossils. Today, in our sixth BioLogos videocast, we extend the question to the age of the Earth. The first section, featured today, explains four methods scientists have used to determine that age: tree ring, lake varve, radiometric, and seafloor spread dating.</p>

<p>The script was written by biology student Joy Walters, with help from BioLogos president Darrel Falk.</p>
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        <title>Willing to be Wrong</title>
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        <description>The debate is often not about evidence, but about making sure that others do not transgress our interpretive boundaries and insist that we&apos;re wrong. We&apos;ve bitten from the tree of knowledge and we love its taste.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3>What we know</h3>

<p>Genesis is one of my favorite books of the Bible. I read through it probably once every few months and repeatedly grind my Hebrew language skills on its opening chapters. Unlike Leviticus (at least in the opinion of <em>most</em> people I know), the Genesis narrative is exciting and adventurous. Some of our favorite stories come out of the book: Noah and the Ark, The Tower of Babel, Abraham and Isaac, Joseph and the Coat of Many Colors, and so on.</p>

<p>But no story is perhaps as infamous and well known as the creation account (or accounts) as presented in Genesis 1-2. Almost every Christian or Jew, even those less than devout, know the opening words to the tale: “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.” We know that God created the earth in six days. We know Eve was taken from Adam's rib for a companion. We know that God called the general creation “good”, the special creation of man “very good” and, at the very end of it all, took a day of rest (which I'm sure most of us would call “very good.”)</p>

<p>Of course, we know all of this. Yet we challenge it (and are challenged by it), continually, when we consider the variety of interpretations of how this story intersects the world as described by science. With Genesis, are we dealing with a literal scientific account, where “day” means 24-hours; are we dealing with metaphorical “days” in which epochs or periods of time or even processes are being described; or are we readers of a creation mythology from the Ancient Near East that doesn’t have anything directly to do with material origins? Interpretations go on and on, as anyone who has spent any time at all studying the creation debate knows. By and large, however, we can probably categorize Genesis interpreters into three camps: the Young Earth Creationists, the Old Earth Creationists, and the Theistic Evolutionists.</p>

<p>Now, I have the unique benefit of falling into all of these individual camps at one point or another in my life, sometimes even mixing them up. I have made a strong transition from being a die-hard Young Earth Creationist to being convinced that the evolutionary story is, in fact, the more substantiated and evidenced position. I say this with no pride, since my own transition involved many agonizing questions, a whole lot of reading, and a significant internal spiritual battle: what I believed about when and how the earth was created would not only change the way I read Scripture, it would also change certain aspects of how I viewed the Creator. </p>

<p>While I've certainly learned a lot of information on my journey, it was not an accumulation of facts that has kept me following Christ through all the ups and downs, but Jesus himself, and the knowledge that truth is not something which the Christian should find spiritually threatening.  Nevertheless, those same ups and downs—and my internalization of each of these views on creation in turn—has provided me with one simple realization about the debate over scripture and evolution: most of us are not so committed to finding the truth about Genesis and creation as we are to sustaining and maintaining our own interpretive boundaries and the boundaries of the communities which influence us. In other words, the debate is often not so much over Genesis—or even over whether we can all follow the same God when we believe different things about how he created—it's over our own ability to be right. I know this because admitting that I was wrong was the most difficult part of my own transition.</p>

<h3>Interpretive communities</h3>

<p>While I am pretty convinced of the truth of an evolutionary portrait of reality and an ANE reading of Genesis similar to that espoused by scholars like Peter Enns or Bruce Waltke, I can still make this claim about interpretive communities because my intention is <em>not</em> to dissuade others from debating the issues involved, but to ask that we simply recognize our own limits and check them as often as possible.  This is part of following Jesus, is it not? Unfortunately, vigorous debate often deteriorates quickly into screaming matches where proponents of one position or another simply are talking heads, speaking past each other and forgetting our fellowship in Christ. We play into the same interpretive competition that the Pharisee and Sadducee scribes were well known for, each claiming to have a proper interpretation of the Scriptures, but all the while forgetting that interpretive arguments matter exceptionally little if a genuine search for God is not at the forefront.  This is certainly not to insist that the discussions cease, but rather, to insist that these discussions can only be propelled forward if individuals—of whatever stripe—step outside of their own interpretive boundaries and communities and humbly present themselves before God, seeking His truth alone. It is to insist that “system maintenance” must die along with the self, because only then can we allow Scripture to interpret itself. Unfortunately (and this is an issue that goes <em>way</em> beyond the Genesis text), too many of us are more committed to a specific model than we are committed to seeking God’s truth, whatever inconvenience to us that truth proves to be. </p>

<p>In 2006, for instance, I heard a popular and well-trained Young Earth paleontologist make the following statement: “If all the evidence turns against young earth creationism, I will still believe it because that's what the Bible says.” I followed up with him in a conversation a year later over lunch and quickly realized that I did not misunderstand his statement.  For him, the parameters of his convictions were set in concrete and the truth of the overarching story of Christianity rested on these parameters not being crossed. In his view, the Bible absolutely and fundamentally teaches a universe which came into existence 6,000-10,000 years ago; to deny that is to deny Scripture, and if evidence turned up to the contrary one <em>must</em> not alter those parameters but, instead, search (perhaps in vain) for counter-evidence or be willing to live in blind faith. For this paleontologist, confident Christianity hinged on the stability of those borders of interpretation. Transition wasn't allowed. </p>

<p>But I have heard and read statements coming out of the two other camps of thought that share this kind of certainty over interpretation, too. There is a sense of doing injustice to scripture, thereby doing an injustice to Christianity, and, thereby again, doing an injustice to God if one strays from the preferred reading. One Old Earth Creationist remarked in a popular book that an interpretation of Genesis that allows for evolution is a “contradiction in terms” and it's an unfortunate thing to “blame God for it.” Genesis, in the mind of this thinker, specifically precludes any interpretation which leads to the sort of story evolution tells. To think otherwise is to “blame” God for something which he intentionally tells us is otherwise against his nature.</p>

<p>I have equally heard some theistic evolutionists deride—in a very spiritually shallow and personally offensive way—those who do not accept an evolutionary viewpoint. As one who went through an interpretive evolution on biological evolution, I can say confidently that I believe my own transition would have been much easier both intellectually and spiritually if not for feeling as if certain theistic evolutionists accused me of intentionally lying or being mentally ignorant. It seems that all three camps are at least sometimes plagued by the issue of pride—especially in the cases of a few strong advocates. But pride is nothing less than the cement by which interpretive barriers are built, helping them become unmovable walls that protect the interpretive communities within.<sup>1</sup> </p>

<p>On the other hand, one of the great benefits of the fall of positivism (or verificationism) and the rise of postmodernism was the realization that total objectivity among individuals is a false conception. And, since individuals make up communities, neither are camps of thought above error and immune from being wrong. Yet way too many Christians continue to approach Genesis as if we can interpret it on its own terms, completely and totally, without reference to our own location in history and culture. We're still functionally positivists. But it is an illusion that we’re above the interpretive fray, and we must realize time and again that we are subjective individuals, affected by a number of factors and people. We are deeply influenced by those that speak into us, those that we trust, and those that we find credible. As W. Randolph Tate writes, </p>


<blockquote>Interpretations...must be consistent with the established interpretive framework of the interpretive community. The worldview of the interpretive community sets the parameters within which interpretations are accepted or rejected.<sup>2</sup></blockquote>

<p>The Bible takes a slightly different angle and puts it this way: “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”  In other words, we are not objective data-interpreting individuals but fallen men and women, even as followers of Jesus. </p>

<p>So it’s when groups of folks line up on either side of an issue and make their positions part of their identity that the debate over interpreting Genesis reaches a near stalemate. It's communities against communities, PhDs against PhDs, experts against experts, and—perhaps more internally—interpretive parameters against interpretive parameters. The truth is that as long as we are first and foremost committed to maintaining the community in which we are involved, there will be very little chance of us getting at the real issues and the best conclusions, much less giving an adequate witness to our God, both Creator and Redeemer.</p>


<h3>New eyes, fresh air</h3>

<p>I mentioned earlier that I spent time in all three major camps of thought on this issue. I was a hard-lined Young Earth Creationist, debating on forums and writing creationist papers in college. I argued for the existence of modern-day dinosaurs, major flood geology, and so on. I was convinced I was right, that defending the truth meant digging my heels deeper into the sand. But two questions plagued my thoughts: first, I asked whether Christianity fell to pieces if I was wrong. Second, I asked whether I was committed to Christ or, rather, to myself and my interpretations. With that as my first major paradigm shift, I eventually came to accept an Old Earth view. I sat comfortably within the Old Earth view for several years, but the Lord was still at work in me, and, once again, brought those two questions to my mind.  Back to the books I went, back to the Bible I went, and back to prayer I went.  </p>

<p>Through months of extremely difficult and heart-rending transition, I found myself considering a particular reading of Genesis that I would have regarded as unacceptable as a YEC. But then I was confronted with this even more important point about Christianity: often God finds what is unacceptable to us very acceptable to Him! That included me, personally, and I felt the warmth of God’s grace flow over me. In the wake of that change of heart, people accused me of rejecting my background, my Christian education, and my interpretive communities. And, yet—whether I was right or wrong—I knew God accepted my path towards this new reading of Creation as a genuine search for Him. My spiritual struggle—contrary to what I thought while it was happening—was not a struggle to reject bad data and exegesis, it was a struggle to reject myself. </p>

<p>While the “facts” were important, that spiritual struggle was even more so for me. What was God showing me in the midst of it all? Was thinking differently about the creation making me appreciate the Creator less, or more?  Did reading Genesis differently mean only that I had been wrong, or that it was somehow less true? What did any of this have to do with my sense of calling to love and serve God and my fellow men?   In a way, I’m still figuring this out. But I can absolutely testify that the struggle transformed every single one of these questions. Indeed, for the first time, I believe I saw God as much <em>this-worldly</em> as <em>other-worldly</em>. I saw nature as intimately intertwined with itself, still being woven together by God’s hand. I saw Scripture as a beautiful expression of God’s desire that man should participate in creation. I saw that my fellow men and my fellow Christians were all on a journey, much the way I was. And I saw myself as a flawed, stubborn, and prideful man, yet forgiven for the times I’ve pitted myself and my presuppositions about Scripture against God, its author. </p>

<p>As settled as I am now, I have not forgotten that the common ribbon which ties together all of these transitions is my commitment to keep asking questions within my own circle, too—realizing that God still has much to teach all of us.  I have learned the continuing importance of stepping outside of my camp and making sure I haven’t become merely a product of or a willing prisoner to thinking a certain way, unwilling to consider that it and I might be incorrect. I came to realize that <em>everyone</em> (including myself, of course) has stories and life experiences that become the framework in which they read Genesis 1-2.  And if I stopped pretending that I, myself, could be perfectly objective, then I also had to stop pretending that those in the community that I trusted were <em>necessarily</em> objective, themselves. </p>

<p>Ultimately, I had to be willing to be wrong and to see that my friends might be wrong, too. That’s not something that any of us are “naturally” very good at, but it is possible when we realize that the world does not depend on <em>us</em> being right, but upon Jesus being right. For me, seeking truth rather than presupposition requires that we all be able to approach the communities that have influenced us deeply, and ask not just “what” they say but “why” they say it.  We all have to guard our hearts even more than our heads.  Frequently reminding myself to walk back to the edge of my own camp—to follow Jesus’ example and withdraw to a solitary place—has shown me that there is room to breathe outside our familiar interpretive parameters.  At certain times, I have found it to be the most refreshing air I've ever tasted.</p>

<h3>Notes </h3>

<p class="date">1. Though, admittedly, the theistic evolutionists tend to have a greater sense of leeway when it comes to how the claims of Genesis 1-2 affect Christianity as a whole. It would be an odd thing to say that to <em>not</em> interpret Genesis 1-2 as an evolutionary metaphor is to reject Christianity. As far as I know, most Christian evolutionists are very much willing to acknowledge that Young and Old Earth Creationists are still within appropriate spiritual bounds, even if not scientific ones. It seems to me that if individual theistic evolutionists choose an issue about which to be rigid, it’s the Fall and the existence of Adam.<br />

2. Tate, W. Randolpy. <em>Biblical Interpretation: An Integrated Approach</em>. Peabody, MA: Hendrickson, 2008, p 222.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <description>Our desire to engage in gracious dialogue with fellow believers who reject biological evolution has been receiving increased attention in both the Christian and secular press.  More importantly, we are being joined in this reconciling project by our brothers and sisters in Christ who have often been defined primarily as our “opponents”.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two main reasons why it is critically important that science & faith conversations between Christians be conducted with grace and humility.  First, as all of us see “through a glass darkly,” we need the insights of the entire Christian community (from scientists, to theologians, to Biblical scholars, to pastors to poets) in order to achieve the best understanding of the world God called us to cultivate and rule as his regents. No one discipline or perspective is sufficient in itself, whether focused on God’s Word or God’s world.</p>

<p>But it is also important that we engage believers who disagree with us (on human origins, especially) with charity and humility as a witness to our common identity in Christ—that we may be known by our love for each other in tandem with our demonstrated love for the secular world that does not yet claim Christ as Lord and Savior.</p>  

<p>While the BioLogos Foundation is committed to both of these aspects, we are especially pleased that our desire to engage in gracious dialogue with fellow believers who reject biological evolution has been receiving increased and very favorable attention in both the Christian and secular press.  More importantly, we are being joined in that reconciling project by those who have often been defined primarily as our “opponents,” rather than as brothers and sisters in Christ.</p>

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<p>First, <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2012/july-august/a-tale-of-two-scientists.html?paging=off">A Tale of Two Scientists</a>, the cover story of Christianity Today’s July-August 2012 issue, featured the accounts of BioLogos Foundation President Darrel Falk and Todd Wood, Director of the Center for Creation Research at Bryan University.  Though Wood does not accept biological evolution on theological grounds, both men recognize its strength and explanatory power. But more importantly, both reject the warfare model between science and faith (and between Christians who think differently) as being, in Wood’s words, “detrimental to the Church.” </p>

<p>Second, our Southern Baptist Voices series has become a model for how such dialogue can be pursued, even in the sometimes no-holds-barred context of the web.  Several installments in our ongoing dialogue with Southern Baptist theologians have been covered by the Erin Roach of the Baptist Press (on <a href="http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=37901">May 25th</a> , <a href="http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=37981">June 6th</a>, and <a href="http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=38198">July 3rd</a>) and on on July 19th by Lillian Kwan of the <a href="http://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-debate-theistic-evolution-historical-adam-78570/">Christian Post</a>.  And just this past week, Associated Press reporter Travis Loller highlighted the series in an article picked up by the <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/evangelical-scientists-debate-evolution_n_1683480.html">Huffington Post</a>, the <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/evangelical-scientists-debate-evolution-online-with-southern-baptist-seminary-professors/2012/07/18/gJQAqBsstW_story.html">Washington Post</a>, and many other news outlets across the country. </p>

<p>To make it easier for readers to find the entire Southern Baptist Voices series and join in the conversation themselves, we’ve launched a new landing page here: <a href="http://biologos.org/blog/sbv">Southern Baptist Voices</a>.  It is our hope and prayer that this initiative will set the stage for future dialogue between evolutionary creationists and those who hold other perspectives, as well.</p>


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        <description>In this series, Davis identifies core tenets or assumptions about the view of concordism, beginning with propositions about the Bible before concluding with a short historical commentary.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word “concordism” is found in neither <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com">Merriam Webster</a> nor the <em>Oxford English Dictionary</em>, yet it’s often used in contemporary works dealing with origins. Derived from the word “concord,” meaning a state of harmony, “concordism” has been used sparingly in English for more than a century. However, its prominence today comes from a thoroughly scholarly book written shortly after World War Two by the late Baptist theologian <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Ramm">Bernard Ramm</a>, <em>The Christian View of Science and Scripture</em> (1954). As Ramm defined it, concordism “seeks a harmony of the geologic record and the days of Genesis,” by which he really meant an old-earth creationist approach. </p>

<p>I am using the term in the same sense. Like Ramm, I don’t regard theistic evolution as a concordist view, even though some TE proponents like to say that evolution can be “harmonized” with Genesis. At the same time, Ramm completely rejected Price’s recent creation and Flood Geology, and he obviously did not consider that view to be a type of concordism either. Why not? On first glance, the YEC view might seem to fall within Ramm’s definition of concordism, and the authors of <a href="http://biologos.org/resources/books/origins">one of the books</a> recommended in the first column in this series classify it as a type of concordism. However, the harmony sought by YEC proponents comes at the cost of entirely rejecting the <em>standard</em> geologic record, which they replace with Flood Geology. That isn’t what Ramm had in mind by seeking a “harmony.”</p>

<p>Often the concordist view is called “progressive creation,” another term that Ramm used with much approval: “<em>We believe that the fundamental pattern of creation is progressive creation</em>,” he wrote prominently in italics. Indeed, it is sometimes assumed that Ramm invented both terms, “concordism” and “progressive creation,” when in fact he did no such thing. If anything, the latter term is even older than the former, having been used to refer to an OEC interpretation of natural history for about two centuries. The first American author to use it may have been <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Silliman">Benjamin Silliman</a>, an evangelical who was appointed the first professor of natural history at Yale by another evangelical, Yale’s president <a href="http://college.cengage.com/english/lauter/heath/4e/students/author_pages/eighteenth/dwight_ti.html">Timothy Dwight</a>. Silliman was the single most influential figure in American science during the nineteenth century. In his <em>Outline of the Course of Geological Lectures Given in Yale College</em> (1829), Silliman spoke of “the progressive creation, life, death and sepulture [fossilization], of animals and plants.” On another occasion he noted how the Bible describes “a successive creation of plants and animals, ending with man,” and that geology “proves this history to be true.”</p>

<p>Clearly, then, the concordist or progressive creationist view has been around for a long time. Let’s examine its main components.</p>

<h3>Core Tenets or Assumptions of Concordism</h3>

<p><strong>(1)	The Bible and science (mainly geology and astronomy) are <em>BOTH</em> reliable sources of knowledge about the origin of the earth and the universe. God has written two “books” for our instruction, the book of nature and the book of scripture. Since God is the author of both “books,” they must agree when properly interpreted.</strong></p>

<p>If this strikes you as worded deliberately to sound like <a href="http://biologos.org/blog/galileo-and-other-good-books-about-science-and-the-bible">Galileo</a>, you’re right—but only because so many proponents of the concordist view also have Galileo very much in their minds. The basic scheme is neatly depicted in this diagram:</p>

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<p>Recall Galileo’s belief that the book of nature, written in the divine and unambiguous language of mathematics, should be used to help interpret the book of scripture, written in the richer but more ambiguous language spoken by the ordinary persons for whom its vital message of salvation was intended. When they accept the evidence for an ancient earth, Silliman and many other evangelical scholars right down to our own day believe they have merely applied Galileo’s logic to a different set of biblical texts. </p>

<p><strong>(2)	Scientific evidence, when properly interpreted, is consistent with the Bible, when properly interpreted. </strong></p>

<p>Galileo again: because both “books” are written by the same Author, they must agree. As he said in his <a href="http://www.disf.org/en/documentation/03-Galileo_Cristina.asp">Letter to Christina</a>, “the holy Bible can never speak untruth—whenever its true meaning is understood. But I believe nobody will deny that it is often very abstruse, and may say things which are quite different from what its bare words signify. Hence in expounding the Bible if one were always to confine oneself to the unadorned grammatical meaning, one might fall into error.” </p>

<p>What about those who interpret the book of nature? Can they ever be mistaken? Should they ever yield to those who interpret the book of scripture? Evolution was not the source of Galileo’s concerns, but concordists today would give the nod to scripture mainly when it comes to evolution—especially human evolution. Regardless of how much evolution they accept for other organisms, concordists hold strongly to the separate creation of Adam and Eve as the first human beings. They believe that Genesis 1 was intended to be at least broadly historical, even though it does not provide detailed scientific information.</p>

<p>Mainstream conclusions in geology and cosmology, however, are almost always accepted; indeed, <a href="http://www.reasons.org/articles/big-bang---the-bible-taught-it-first">Hugh Ross</a> and some other <a href="http://www.bibleandscience.com/science/images/showmegod.jpg">OECs</a> not only accept the “big bang” theory of the universe, they actively promote it as central to Christian apologetics, because it presents us with a universe that is not eternal and that appears to be exquisitely designed as a home for living creatures, including ourselves. </p>

<p><strong>(3) The Bible does <em>NOT</em> tell us the age of the earth.</strong></p>

<p>Two main concordist approaches to resolving the tension between Genesis and scientific dating of the earth have been popular since the mid-nineteenth century: the “day-age theory,” which still has numerous advocates (including Ross), and the “gap theory,” which is now nearly extinct. One hundred years ago, however, the gap theory was probably the more popular option among conservative Protestants, and it remained so until the 1960s and 1970s, when the rapid spread of Scientific Creationism all but relegated the gap view to the dust bin.</p>

<h4>The Gap Theory</h4>

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<p>The gap theory posits a “gap” of untold length between “the beginning” of Genesis 1:1 and the first “day” of creation, starting with Genesis 1:3; the formless void of Gen 1:2 corresponds to this “gap.” Verse 1 refers to the original creation of the earth and the universe “in the beginning,” not to world as we now find it. The fossils represent creatures that populated the original creation. <em>Current</em> living creatures come from a second creation, after the “gap,” when God made them in six literal days, culminating in the creation of Adam and Eve just a few thousand years ago.</p>

<p>Although the creation of humanity matches the traditional biblical chronology—a major reason for the popularity of the gap theory in its heyday—the original creation cannot be dated from the Bible. Whether it happened 100 million years ago (as scientists thought around 1900) or billions of years ago (as scientists thought for much of the twentieth century), does not matter one bit to the Bible. Geologists can say whatever they wish about the age of the earth. The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scofield_Reference_Bible">Scofield Reference Bible</a>, originally published by Oxford University Press in 1909, taught the gap theory to generations of conservative Protestants in the English speaking world. The headings alone indicate Scofield’s endorsement of the gap theory, and he waited no longer than the second footnote to spell it out: “The first creative act refers to the dateless past, and gives scope for all the geologic ages.” (NOTE: the date “B.C. 4004" in the middle column refers to the start of the six days, not to “the beginning.” I’ll elaborate on that date in part two of this column.)</p>
 
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<p>As Scofield’s third note shows, the gap theory was usually placed within an elaborate theological structure about the fall of Satan and the angels, based on certain prophetic texts (see below). A full discussion would take us far afield, but something should be said about how gap theorists interpret Genesis 1:2, the crucial verse for their model. Scofield sticks with the King James Version, “the earth was without form, and void,” doing the exegetical work in his notes, but others like to <a href="http://www.bibleword.org/genesis1.html">render it</a> as, “the earth <strong><em>became</em></strong> a waste place,”, drawing out the implication (in their view) that God destroyed the original creation, laying waste to it in an act of judgment, leaving us with fossils of the pre-Adamic world. </p>

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<p>In some versions of the gap view, the original creation included pre-Adamite people—that is, humans who were not descended from Adam and Eve. This idea that took many forms, some with racist overtones. Perhaps this strikes you as a bit surprising, but in the mid-nineteenth century it was a commonplace conception among Protestants, and not <a href="http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12370a.htm">unknown to Catholics either</a>. A prominent example would be <em><a href="http://archive.org/details/preadamiteearthc187000harr">The Pre-Adamite Earth: A Contribution to Theological Science</a></em> (1846), a very popular book by the English Congregational minister John Harris. Historian David Livingstone has written the definitive history of this fascinating idea. For more, see <a href="http://rorotoko.com/interview/20090206_livingstone_david_adam_ancestors_race_religion_politics_human_orig/?page=1">this interview</a>, but there is no substitute for reading the book itself! Let me make an invitation: who wants to borrow a copy and provide their own commentary here? </p>

<p>In all versions of the gap theory, however, fossils are vestiges of the pre-Adamic world, produced when it was destroyed; they are not a record of evolutionary history. All modern animals and many plants were created recently, in six literal days. Despite what YECs often say, there is just no way to see the gap theory as an “evolutionist” interpretation of Genesis!</p>

<h4>The "Day-Age" Theory</h4>
<p>The day-age theory takes the “days” in Genesis 1 as periods of indefinite length, such that neither the age of the earth nor the duration of any particular period in creation history can be determined from the Bible. The basis for this view is that the Hebrew word “yom” (day) can also mean an indefinite period of time. According to Hugh Ross, the leading advocate of progressive creation today, if the Hebrews had wanted to refer to a long period of indefinite length, they would have used the word “yom.” Thus, he claims to be giving a <em>literal</em> interpretation when he upholds the day-age view.</p>

<p>Numerous varieties of the day-age view have been proposed since the eighteenth century, too many to review here. They all teach that the major kinds of plants and animals were created separately, over the eons of earth history; the fossil record shows reliably which came earlier and which came later. Thus, the creation was accomplished “progressively,” as Silliman held in 1829 and Ross holds today. Ross thinks God performed <em>millions</em> of acts of special creation, but concordists differ substantially among themselves on the magnitude of the number for this.</p>

<p>Concordists mostly agree, however, that the first true humans were Adam and Eve, and that they were created <em>ex nihilo</em>—but, how recently were they created? Can the biblical 6,000 years be stretched far enough to encompass fossils of modern humans (<em>homo sapiens sapiens</em>) dating back perhaps to nearly 200,000 years? Can the biblical picture of Adam’s children living amidst cities and agriculture be reconciled with extensive evidence of humans who lived long before either existed? I’m no anthropologist, but anyone can see the relevance of such questions for this position. </p>

<p><strong>(4) The Flood was a real historical event, but it was not responsible for producing the fossils; rather, fossils are relics of organisms that were mainly here before humans.</strong></p>

<p>The last of the four basic assumptions shared by concordists is that they reject Flood Geology and accept the <a href="http://ebeltz.net/firstfam/geocolum.html">standard geologic column</a>. <a href="http://www.reasons.org/articles/exploring-the-extent-of-the-flood-part-one">Hugh Ross</a> and some others believe that the flood was <strong><em>geographically localized</em></strong>, covering part of the ancient Near East but not the whole globe. This is called the “local flood” view. Biblical scholar Paul Seely <a href="http://biologos.org/blog/series/the-flood-not-global-barely-local-mostly-theological">briefly assesses this view</a> in light of current knowledge here, but a full discussion of the issues goes well beyond of the scope of this online course. Anyone with appropriate expertise is invited to place comments below. The main point is that the flood has no <strong><em>geological</em></strong> significance for concordists, whether or not it was geographically “local.” </p>

<h3>Looking Ahead</h3>
<p>Our look at concordism concludes on July 3 with some conclusions about the OEC view and further historical comments. I’ll pay attention to your comments in the meantime.</p><br> </br>
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<h4>In a Nutshell</h4>
Many independent measurements have established that the Earth and the universe are billions of years old.  Geologists have found annual layers in glaciers that can be counted back 740,000 years.  Using the known rate of change in radio-active elements (radiometric dating), some Earth rocks have been shown to be billions of years old, while the oldest solar system rocks are dated at 4.6 billion years.  Astronomers use the distance to galaxies and the speed of light to calculate that the light has been traveling for billions of years.  The expansion of the universe gives an age for the universe as a whole: 13.7 billion years old. <br />

<h4>In Detail</h4>

<h3>Introduction</h3>
<p>Astronomers and geologists have determined that the universe and Earth are billions of years old. This conclusion is not based on just one measurement or one calculation, but on many types of evidence.  Here we will describe just two types of evidence for an old Earth and two types of evidence for an old universe; more types can be found under <a href="#reading">Further Reading</a>. These methods are largely independent of each other, based on separate observations and arguments, yet all point to a history much longer than 10,000 years. As Christians, we believe that God created the world and that the world declares his glory, so we can’t ignore what nature is telling us about its history.</p>

<h3>Age of the Earth from seasonal rings and layers</h3>
<p>If you’ve ever seen a horizontal slice of a tree trunk, you’ve seen how a tree forms a new growth ring each year.   In years of drought, the tree grows less quickly so the ring is narrower; in good growing seasons the ring is thicker.  A tree’s age can be found by simply counting its rings.  By comparing the pattern of thick and thin rings to weather records, scientists can verify that the method is accurate.   This method can even be used on dead trees that fell in a forest long ago.  For example, the last 200 rings in the dead tree might match up with 200 rings early in the life of the living tree, so the two trees together can count back many years.   In this way, multiple trees can be used to build a master chronology for a forested region.   European oak trees have been used to build a 12,000-year chronology.<sup>1</sup></p>

<p>The annual ice layers in glaciers provide a similar method that goes back much further in history.  Each year, snowfall varies throughout the seasons and an annual layer is formed.  Like the tree rings, this method can be verified by comparison to historical records for weather, as well as to records of volcanic eruptions around the globe that left thin dust layers on the glaciers.   Scientists have drilled ice cores deep into glaciers and found ice that is 123,000 years old in Greenland<sup>2</sup> and 740,000 years old in Antarctica.<sup>3</sup>  These annual layers go back much farther than the 10,000 years advocated by the young earth creationists.  The Earth must be at least 740,000 years old.</p>

<div class="see-also"><img src="http://biologos.org/uploads/questions/image-question7-thumb.jpg" alt="" height="76" width="70"  />How can an old Earth be reconciled with Genesis?  See <a href="/questions/category/scripture-interpretation">Scripture Interpretation</a></div>

<h3>Age of the Earth and solar system from radiometric dating</h3>
<p>In your high school science classroom, you may have seen a large poster of the periodic table hanging on the wall.  The periodic table shows the types of atoms that make up the world around us.  An element in the periodic table can come in different flavors called isotopes.  Some isotopes are unstable, and over time these isotopes “decay” into isotopes of other elements.   For example, Potassium-40 is unstable and decays into Argon-40.   As time passes, a rock will have more and more Argon-40 and less and less Potassium-40.   Radiometric dating is possible because this decay occurs at a known rate, called the “half-life” of the radioactive element. The half-life is the time that it takes for half the radioactive sample to change from one element into the other.</p>

<p>Some isotopes have short half-lives of minutes or years, but Potassium-40 has a half-life of 1.3 billion years.  Radiometric dating requires that one understand the initial ratio of the two elements in a given sample by some means.  In this case, Argon-40 is a gas that easily bubbles out and escapes when it is produced in molten rock.  Once the rock hardens, however, all the Argon-40 is trapped in the sample, giving us an accurate record of how much Potassium-40 has decayed since that time.   So, if we find a rock with equal parts Potassium-40 and Argon-40, we know that half the Potassium-40 has decayed into Argon-40, and that the rock hardened 1.3 billion years ago.<sup>4</sup></p>

<p>It’s hard to find rocks on the surface of the Earth that have not been altered over time.  Most old rocks have been eroded by wind and water or submerged by continental plates.   The oldest reliably dated rock formation is in Greenland, where several different isotopes were used to find an age of 3.6 billion years.<sup>5</sup>   Scientists also recently dated zircon grains (which resist erosion) in Western Australia to 4.4 billion years old.<sup>6</sup> To find older rocks that haven’t been eroded, we need to look beyond Earth.  Meteorites are rocks from the solar system that have fallen to Earth recently and haven’t suffered much erosion.  Their pristine interiors give an age that dates back to their formation at the beginning of the solar system.  Nearly all meteorites have the same radiometric age, 4.56 billion years old.<sup>7</sup> Thus, the solar system, including the Earth, is about 4,560,000,000 years old.</p>

<p><h3><a href="http://biologos.org/questions/ages-of-the-earth-and-universe">PLEASE READ THE REST OF THE ANSWER HERE</a>.</h3></p>

<h4>Notes</h4>
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<li><a name="note-1"></a>Davis A. Young,  ”How Old Is It?  How Do We Know? A Review of Dating Methods – Part One: Relative Dating, Absolute Dating, and Non-radiometric Dating” <em>Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith</em>, Vol 58 No 4 (2006), p. 264. (<a href="http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2006/PSCF12-06Young.pdf" target="_blank">PDF</a>)</li>
<li><a name="note-2"></a>Roger C. Weins, "Radiometric Dating: A Christian Perspective", <em>The American Scientific Affiliation</em> (2002). See also North Greenland Ice Core Project Members, “High-resolution Record of Northern Hemisphere Climate Extending into the Last Interglacial Period,” <em>Nature</em> 431 (2004): 147–151, which reports ages back to 123,000 years.  (<a href="http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html" target="_blank">web article</a>)</li>
<li><a name="note-3"></a>EPICA Community Members, “Eight Glacial Cycles from an Antarctic Ice Core,” <em>Nature</em> 429 (2004): 623–628.</li>
<li><a name="note-4"></a>Young earth creationists reject radiometric dating methods, including claims that decay rates are not constant.  For a critical review, see  Randall Isaac “Assessing the RATE Project”, <em>Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith</em>, vol 59, no 2, June 2007, p.143-146. (<a href="http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2007/PSCF6-07Isaac.pdf" target="_blank">PDF</a>)</li>
<li><a name="note-5"></a>See Wiens and references therein. (<a href="http://www.asa3.org/ASA/resources/Wiens.html" target="_blank">web article</a>)</li>
<li><a name="note-6"></a>Wilde et al. “Evidence from detrital zircons for the existence of continental crust and oceans on the earth 4.4 Gyr ago,” <em>Nature</em> (2001) 409, 175-178. </li>
<li><a name="note-7"></a>See Davis A Young,  ”How Old Is It?  How Do We Know? A Review of Dating Methods—Part Two: Radiometric Dating: Mineral, Isochron and Concordia Methods” <em>Perspectives on Science and Christian Faith</em>, Vol 59, No 1 (2007) and references therein (<a href="http://www.asa3.org/ASA/PSCF/2007/PSCF6-07Young.pdf" target="_blank">PDF</a>)</li>

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        <description>In a recent interview with the Sirius XM radio show Centered, Karl Giberson sat down with host Don Belanus to discuss the book The Language of Science and Faith.</description>
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<p>In a recent interview with the Sirius XM radio show <em>Centered</em>, Karl Giberson, co-author of BioLogos' <em>The Language of Science and Faith</em>, sat down with host Don Belanus to discuss the book and the interplay between science and faith. Among the topics they cover are what constitute the "genuine questions" of science and faith mentioned in the title and whether the age of the earth should be a top priority for pastors to discuss with their congregations.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <dc:creator>Karl Giberson</dc:creator>
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        <title>Mitochondrial Eve, Y&#45;Chromosome Adam, and Reasons to Believe</title>
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        <description>When presented with the evidence for human population sizes over our evolutionary history, a common point of confusion for evangelicals is how this evidence fits with Mitochondrial Eve. How can we all come from one woman (and one man) but also come from a large population of 10,000 individuals?</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="intro">One of the challenges for discussing evolution within evangelical Christian circles is that there is widespread confusion about how evolution actually works. In this (intermittent) series, I discuss aspects of evolution that are commonly misunderstood in the Christian community. In this post, we tackle the issue of why “Mitochondrial Eve” and “Y-chromosome Adam” are not an ancestral couple from whom all humans descend, as claimed by the Old-Earth Creationist organization <em>Reasons to Believe</em>.</p>

<p>It is reasonably well known among evangelical Christians that all living humans trace their mitochondrial DNA back to a single woman (a so-called “mitochondrial Eve”) and that all living males similarly trace their Y-chromosome DNA back to a single male (a so-called “Y-chromosome Adam”).  These individuals are commonly assumed by evangelicals to be the Biblical Adam and Eve, the first humans alive and the progenitors of the entire human race. While most young-earth and old-earth creationist organizations make this claim, perhaps one of the best-known organizations to do so is the old-earth creationist / anti-evolution organization <em>Reasons to Believe</em>, who have produced numerous  articles, podcasts, and even entire books on the subject.</p>

<p>In contrast to this common evangelical understanding, the scientific picture is rather different. Mitochondrial Eve, though the most recent common matrilineal ancestor of all humans, was but one of a large population living about 180,000 years ago. So too for Y-chromosome Adam: he was also a member of a large population, and he lived about 50,000 years ago. As has been discussed several times here at BioLogos, there are multiple lines of evidence that indicate the human population has never been below around 10,000 members at any time in its history: we branched off as a large population to form our own species.</p>

<p>When presented with the evidence for human population sizes over our evolutionary history, a common point of confusion for evangelicals is how this evidence fits with Mitochondrial Eve. How can we all come from one woman (and one man) but also come from a large population of 10,000 individuals? Aren’t these two observations in conflict?</p>

<p>The answer is no, these lines of evidence fit together. Humans do come from a large population, and all present-day humans do inherit mitochondrial and Y-chromosome DNA from specific individuals in the past. The reason for the apparent discrepancy lies in how mitochondrial and Y-chromosome DNA are inherited, as we shall see below.</p>

<p>Mitochondria are organelles responsible for energy conversion, and they contain their own small, circular chromosome that they replicate apart from regular chromosomes in the cell nucleus. Mitochondria are not passed on to progeny through sperm, but only through the egg: as such, mitochondrial DNA is passed on solely through the maternal line. Consider a small pedigree (family tree) below. Circles represent females, males are represented with squares. In this family, one grandmother (the woman at the top right of the pedigree) has passed on her mitochondrial DNA to her sons and daughter, but only her daughter passes it on to the next generation. All individuals who have this grandmother’s mitochondrial DNA are shown in blue:</p>

<p align="center"><img src="http://biologos.org/uploads/static-content/mito_eve_1.jpg" alt="" width="570" height="363"  /></p>

<p>Conversely, if we examine Y-chromosome inheritance in this same family, we would see that (obviously) women cannot pass it on to their children. Here, the red lines show all males who have descended from a grandfather of the family (the male at the top left of the pedigree):</p>
 
<p align="center"><img src="http://biologos.org/uploads/static-content/mito_eve_2.jpg" alt="" width="570" height="355"  /></p>

<p>Now we are ready to examine how these types of DNA are inherited in a larger group, and compare their modes of inheritance with regular chromosomal DNA. While it is not possible to draw out a pedigree for a population of 10,000 individuals, let’s examine a smaller group to see how a specific mitochondrial sequence can “take over” a population of organisms (note that this effect applies to other organisms besides humans that use an XX – XY system of sex chromosomes).</p>

<p>In the family tree below, three mitochondrial DNA variants are present in the first generation (the top row of the pedigree) and a represented with different colors (green, blue and red). Tracing the inheritance of these mitochondrial DNA versions through the family tree shows that all living members of this population (the bottom two rows) have inherited the red version only. The blue and green versions eventually hit a dead end where they were not passed on (either through females who did not have children, or males). As such, all living individuals can trace their mitochondrial DNA back to this group’s “mitochondrial Eve”, the woman at the top right of the tree with the “Mito 3” variant.</p>

<p align="center"><img src="http://biologos.org/uploads/static-content/mito_eve_3.jpg" alt="" width="570" height="391"  /></p>

<p>Let’s now examine Y-chromosome inheritance patterns in the exact same family tree. Suppose there are three Y chromosome variants present in the first generations:</p>
 
<p align="center"><img src="http://biologos.org/uploads/static-content/mito_eve_4.jpg" alt="" width="570" height="386"  /></p>

<p>Here we can see that the current population has inherited its Y-chromosome DNA from one individual as well (variant 1, the red lines) and that the other Y-chromosome variants (blue and green) hit dead ends through males that did not reproduce or men who only had daughters. All living members of the population trace their Y chromosome DNA back to an individual (filled in with yellow) who lived two generations after their most recent matrilineal common ancestor (the woman at the top right).</p>

<p>Now we are ready to examine regular chromosomal inheritance in this same family tree. Genetic variation on chromosomes other than the Y can be passed through either gender without problem, and individuals can have two variants at a time (one on the chromosome inherited from mom, the other on the chromosome inherited from dad). These key differences (compared to how mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosomes are inherited) produce a very different effect. In this same family, numerous variants (represented by the different colors) have been transmitted to the present generation without loss:</p> 
 
<p align="center"><img src="http://biologos.org/uploads/static-content/mito_eve_5.jpg" alt="" width="565" height="371"  /></p>

<p>Notice the middle couple in the first generation in the pedigree. This man’s Y chromosome did not make it to the present day, and similarly his wife’s mitochondrial DNA did not make it either (scroll up to see this if you need to refresh your memory). So, they contributed nothing to the current generation, right? Not at all: both of them have passed on regular chromosomal variation to the present day (traced as blue and black lines).</p>
  
<p>In other words, it would be incorrect to examine this population, determine (correctly) that they share common mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosome ancestors, and then go on to conclude that these two individuals were an ancestral pair that started this entire family. We know that this group descends from a larger population, because genetic variation in the present population is too large to explain as coming from one pair (there are five colors, or genetic variants in this population, and the max any one pair could carry is four, with two each).</p>

<p>While this example examines a small family, the same principles apply to larger groups: mitochondrial and Y-chromosome lineages, though interesting, cannot be used to estimate population sizes over time. For that type of work, regular chromosomal variation should be examined. Present day human genetic variation indicates that though we all share a common mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosome source, these individuals came from a population of at least 10,000 individuals, and that they lived over 100,000 years apart. If you are interested in examining the evidence for human population sizes, Darrel Falk and I have discussed it previously.</p>
 
<p>In summary, anti-evolutionary groups, such as <em>Reasons to Believe</em>, that claim that the evidence for Mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosome Adam supports an ancestral couple for the entire human race are not interpreting the data correctly. They have failed to account for the unique pattern of inheritance these types of DNA have in populations.</p>

<p class="intro">Photo courtesy of <a href="http://irkedmagazine.com/417/chromosomes/" target="_blank">Lewis Schofield</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
        <pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 11 08:25:23 -0700</pubDate>
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        <description>In his sermon, Dave Swaim discusses the early chapters of Genesis that seemingly contradict scientific evidence, and he suggests that Christians have simply asked the “wrong questions” about this ancient text, which has led to warfare between the two. In light of this, Swaim wraps up his sermon with the three concluding points that he feels sums up the Biblical truth of creation: there is an all&#45;powerful God, he has a perfect plan, and he has given us his love through Jesus Christ.</description>
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<h3>Introduction</h3>
<p>Today BioLogos begins a series that we think ought to have significant impact on evangelical churches far beyond the local congregation in Arlington, Massachusetts where it was first delivered.  A recent   <a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2011/june/noadamevenogospel.html/" target="_blank">editorial</a> in Christianity Today stated that many Christians likely face another "Galileo moment."  In that earlier era, finding that the earth moved around the sun--and not the other way around--caused the Church to reorient its understanding of certain scriptural passages.  Today, interconnecting strands of evidence all of which lie at the heart of biology, geology, physics and astronomy require segments of the Church to carefully evaluate its magnificent creation narrative--it needs to be certain it is hearing God's message in the way that God intends for it to be understood.  It is healthy for the conservative wing of Christianity to be carefully examining the genre of the creation narrative.  It has had to do this once before and, it is appropriate to prayerfully seek clarity once again.  Christians are truth-seekers and God's Spirit will guide the process as we sincerely seek that wisdom which is from above.</p>
  
<p>Oratory, at its best, has long been an important key in opening the door to new and dramatically important insights.     Pastor David Swaim of <a href="http://www.highrock.org/" target="_blank">Highrock Church</a> in the Boston suburb of Arlington illustrates this poignantly.  In fact his sermon is so significant, we've asked permission to post it in serial form so that each of us can deeply reflect on his words in a protracted fashion.  We encourage you to let others who are conflicted over this issue know about the series so that they can follow it.   Indeed, we believe It will be a great series for small group discussions--we need to lovingly support each other as we seek God's guidance in coming to understand God's truths.</p>

<p>In this sermon, Swaim discusses our belief in God as creator, or “Maker of heaven and earth”, as the Apostle’s Creeds so poetically states.  To begin, he reminds us that some passages in the Bible, like the parable of the prodigal son, convey deep truths even though they are not historical accounts.  Asking “the wrong questions”—questions that focus on arbitrary details—about such stories can cause us to miss out on their intended message.  In a similar way, he says, it is possible that we might be asking the “wrong questions” about the opening chapters of Genesis.  In recent years, conflict has erupted because a literal reading of Genesis seems to contradict the findings of science.  Swaim suggests, however, that accepting scientific evidence about things like evolution and the age of the earth need not rule out faith in Scripture.</p>

<p>If you wish to jump ahead and hear the sermon in its entirety, you may do so <a href="http://www.highrock.org/listen-to-sermons/2011-10-2-the-apostles-creed-creator/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>

<p class="intro"><em>Introduction written by the BioLogos editorial team.</em></p>

<h3>"Maker of Heaven and Earth" (transcript)</h3>

<p>One of my favorite parables is that of the lost son.  There’s a lot to it. Basically, it’s a story that Jesus told about a young man who insulted his father by demanding his share of the inheritance early, then ran off to spend that money on wild living, and found himself destitute when the money was gone.  In desperation, he returned to his father, asking to work as a servant.  But instead of being angry, his father joyfully embraced his lost son and threw a huge feast to celebrate his return.  It is a great story that Jesus tells to help us understand God’s amazing grace.</p>

<p>How many of you know this story?  Raise your hand, if you would.  Okay.  Now I want to make sure I’m clear…that’s a lot of you…I don’t mean just like, you know it because I just told it to you.  I mean you know it because you’ve heard a sermon on this before, or maybe you’ve read it on your own.  Raise your hand high if that’s true of you.  Wow, still a lot of you.  That’s perfect because I actually have a couple of questions maybe you can help me with.  You see, it says that the father saw the son while he was still a long way off.  Can anybody tell me how far off was the son at that point?  Anybody know that? Because, you know, they didn’t have glasses back then, and the father was really old, so how far could he really see?  It just doesn’t really add up for me.  Can anybody tell me about that?  Nobody?  Okay.  Well I have another question.  Maybe this one’s easier.  What town did that family live in? Does anybody know that?  No?  Nobody?  What town they lived in?  People, this is one of the greatest stories of all time!  This is a story that has changed thousands of lives, including many of yours!  How can you say that you know this story, that you understand this story, if you don’t even understand these basic facts?  Okay, well maybe this is easier.  Speaking of family, the Bible’s into family values, so I want to know—where’s the mother?  Can anybody tell me?  Is this family not intact?  What’s wrong?  Did they get a divorce maybe?  And how come the father ended up with the custody of the sons?  And why did they only have two?  Families back then had much bigger families.  Maybe they just got divorced too early?  But I mean he seems so nice—why do you think she left?  Anybody know these things?  I mean I just don’t get it.  You all tell me you know this story, and yet you don’t understand just these simple things about it. </p>

<p>Obviously, my questions miss the whole point of the story.  There was no mother, or for that matter, no father or son either. This never actually happened.  It’s just a parable.  It’s one of the many marvelous stories that Jesus told in order to help us understand something that was hard to see.  Now does that make it so that this story isn’t true?  No, it is true.  This story communicates some of the most important truths in the universe—about God’s nature, and the way that we relate to him. There are many passages in scripture that promise God’s love, or praise God’s love, or even try to explain God’s love.  But this passage helps us grasp that truth in a way that’s much more effectively communicated than just through direct reporting.  This way helps us feel it.  This event never happened, but it’s one of the truest stories in the world.  And what a shame for someone to dismiss it as irrelevant because it’s not literal history, or miss the point by asking the wrong kinds of questions.</p>

<p>Now I bring this up because just like my questions miss the point of the lost son parable, so, I fear, many of us ask the wrong questions about the beginning of the book of Genesis, which we read from just a few minutes ago.  Not only does this generate needless confusion and division, it also makes us miss the point, miss the life-changing truths that we could see if we asked the right questions.  Right now we’re in a sermon series studying the Apostle’s Creed, an ancient declaration of faith in the God of the Bible.  And today, we’re considering the word “creator.”  So, Genesis seemed like the right place to go.</p>

<p>Like the story of the lost son, most of you know the basic outline: God created the universe in six days and then napped on the seventh (so those of you who nap through my sermons every Sunday, you’re in good company!).  But by adding up all the names of the people mentioned in Genesis, and throughout the rest of the Bible, seventeenth century Bishop Ussher determined that the creation of Adam and Eve, and everything else, happened in 4,004 BC—about 6,000 years ago.  And that’s great.  But you’re probably also aware that this creates some tension with contemporary scientists who suggest a different timeline.  Considering the evidence offered by the size and expansion rate of the universe, plate tectonics, fossil evidence, and genetics, their best guess is that the universe was created by a big bang about 13 billion years ago, the earth appeared about 4.5 billion years ago, and the earliest humans existed about 200,000 years ago.  In the past 300 years, this has become a very heated debate.  Apparently, we need to choose whether we believe in science or in scripture.  At least that’s the claim made by the most strident voices on each side, so the general population seems to have accepted that if you believe in God you can’t believe in evolution, and if you believe in evolution then you can’t believe in God.</p>

<p>This topic arouses passions and anxieties in many people, including some in this room.  No matter what your perspective is, I’m probably going to say something today that you’ll disagree with, and might even make you angry.  There’ll be plenty of time for you to set me straight in the coming weeks.  But for the next half hour, in order to allow the possibility that we might hear something new, or even learn from the Holy Spirit, let’s lay aside our defensiveness so that we can at least consider why we are so attached to whatever ideas we have, and evaluate whether our devotion to one truth may be blinding us to others.  As scientists have discovered more and more evidence supporting the basic evolutionary theory outlined in Darwin’s Origin of Species, Christians have responded in a variety of ways.</p>

<p>Science has been right about so many things, so some Christians have embraced evolution and felt forced to abandon their trust, not only in the truth of Scripture, but also in the God it describes.  Other Christians, including many renowned scientists, have fought back by pointing out the many flaws in evolutionary theory and proposing alternative theories of their own.  These include Young Earth Creation, which asserts that the earth was created in six days six thousand years ago, and offers thoughtful explanations to reconcile the findings of science with the words of Genesis 1.  Old Earth Creationists do the same thing, but contend that each of the days in Genesis could represent an epoch, or a million years, or whatever amount of time, instead of just a 24-hour day.  This is linguistically legitimate—it’s a fine interpretation of the Hebrew word “day” in Genesis—and it recognizes that it’s hard to measure a day before the invention of the sun in day four, anyway.  So, Old Earth Creationism opens up many possibilities to reconcile scientific claims about the age of the earth with a literal interpretation of Genesis.  Theistic Evolution takes further steps to accommodate evolution while still honoring God as the one who created heaven and earth and everything in them through the evolutionary process.  This is attractive because it eliminates the conflict between science and scripture, but it requires a very different way of reading Genesis.  They suggest that, like I did with the parable of the prodigal son earlier, perhaps we’re asking the wrong questions about Genesis so that we’re inventing an unnecessary argument, and even worse, we’re also missing what the first chapters of Genesis really are all about.</p>

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        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 11 08:00:03 -0700</pubDate>
        <dc:creator>David Swaim</dc:creator>
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        <title>Navigating the Crises</title>
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        <description>In this video, Brian McLaren discusses the idea of surrogate arguments, in which a debate over one thing is really a means for arguing something completely different. According to McClaren, the argument over the age of the earth is one such argument.</description>
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<p class="intro">Today's video is courtesy of filmmaker Ryan Pettey, director/editor of Satellite Pictures.</p>

<p>In this video, author and pastor Brian McLaren discusses the idea of surrogate arguments, in which a debate over one thing is really a means for arguing something completely different. According to McClaren, the argument over the age of the earth is one such example, in which an apparent scientific debate is actually a discussion over the nature of religious authority and how previous generations have understood how we should interpret the Bible. Such debates can lead to two crises: one of confidence and one of ethics. While some have the confidence to differ with the views of the generation that raised them in the faith, McLaren points out that some are not able to overcome the ethical challenge of differing with grace and love. When this happens, he notes, the end result is damage to the Church and a retrenching of the views of the older generation. Managing the crises well requires courage of convictions while also respecting tradition and maintaining a gracious spirit.  Anything less, is not only unwise, it is also unfaithful.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <dc:creator>Brian McLaren</dc:creator>
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        <description>In this series, Dennis Venema describes his personal journey that took him away from the Intelligent Design arguments toward the evolutionary creation worldview. Through careful and honest research, he discovered ID scientific reasoning to be analogy&#45;based, in sharp contrast to evolutionary science, which was supported by concrete data. After accepting this view, God’s presence ever strengthened him as he explored the compatibility between the Bible and God’s creative mechanism.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those familiar with my work here at BioLogos, it might come as a surprise to know that until relatively recently I was a supporter of the Intelligent Design Movement (IDM). In this series of posts, I tell the story of my transition to the view that God uses evolution as a creative mechanism.</p>

<h3>Early years</h3>
<p>I grew up in northern British Columbia, Canada, in a small town called <a href="http://www.visitterrace.com/" target="_blank">Terrace</a>, where I spent a lot of time in the woods with my father and brother hunting and fishing. Little did I know how spoiled we were –Terrace and its environs are a world-class destination for outdoor pursuits, especially fishing. As a hunter, my father was always interested in patterns in nature: what animals fed on, where they moved at certain times, and so on. Even as a child I can remember being similarly interested in how nature worked. Often, while dad fished, I was the one brandishing a net, bucket at the ready, to see what critters I could scoop up and examine. While my peers at school wanted to be astronauts and firemen, I dreamed of being a scientist some day.</p>

<p>My local church setting was pretty much a wash when it came to science. Science was not held up as a potential vocation, but neither was it denigrated as suspect.  Creation science did not seem to be a priority, but rather global missions.  As such, science–faith issues were seldom, if ever, discussed in the church I grew up in. I can vaguely recall one dust-up over eschatology, which was perhaps the first time I realized that not all Christians agree on everything when it comes to interpreting the Bible. I cannot, however, recall any similar discussion about the means by which God created.</p>

<h3>High school</h3>
<p>Despite evolution being almost a complete non-issue in my local church, I seemed to acquire a generic, evangelical, anti-evolutionary position by default. Certainly I knew of no Christians who accepted it, and I can still recall the feeling of dread I would get even at hearing the word <em>evolution</em> spoken aloud. That word, in my mind, was effectively synonymous with <em>atheism</em>. Fortunately, even in high school biology class evolution seemed to be a complete non-issue too, for as far as I can recall evolution was not a subject I was exposed to in high school. In fact, in high school I found biology to be intensely boring – it seemed to me to be mere regurgitation of information. Chemistry and physics seemed much more interesting, and I suspect now the reason for the appeal they held for me then was that they were taught from their underlying principles: atomic theory, Newtonian mechanics and Einstein’s theories of special and general relativity. What was missing was the theoretical underpinnings of  biology: a way to organize the laundry list of information into a <em>context</em>. It would be a long time before I realized that <em>evolution</em> was the theoretical underpinning that was missing from my biology experience. Given my dread of the topic, had this been pressed on me in high school I may have never pursued a career in biology. </p>

<p>As a high school student I had left behind my childhood desire to be a scientist. After all, I knew no scientists, and had no notion of how one might become one. In my small-town, northern Canadian setting, a medical doctor was about as close as one came to a scientific career that I was aware of. Accordingly, I set my sights on medicine, and off I went to the University of British Columbia in the fall of 1992. Biology seemed a natural choice for an aspiring doctor, so that was what I chose.</p>

<p>One church incident that I do recall with great clarity happened just before I left for university. There were several recent grads in the congregation: some were headed to Bible College, and others, such as myself, were off to “secular” universities. Our congregation had a time of prayer for all of us, but the contrast was stark: prayers of thanksgiving and blessing for those bible-school bound, but for those of us heading into the lion’s den, prayers of supplication that we not lose our faith in the process. I can remember steeling myself for the upcoming battle, where professors tried to snare me with their atheistic teachings and peers likewise pressured me to give up my faith. One battle I knew was coming was the evolution one: certainly, as a biology student, this would be one of the challenges I would have to face.</p>

<h3>University 101</h3>
<p>To my delight, I found that university was not going to require me to hold my breath spiritually for four years. Soon I was involved with Inter-Varsity Christian Fellowship and enjoying the friendship of many other Christian students. Biology, however, remained boring and laundry-list like. My grades in chemistry and physics were still higher than those within my declared major of biology. The one bright spot was that evolution barely seemed to rate a mention except in passing. Certainly no compelling evidence for evolution was ever mentioned – professors seemed too intent on teaching the details of their fields to provide a wider evolutionary context. Even the introductory survey courses seemed more intent on a mere description of biodiversity rather than any detailed understanding of how that diversity arose.  I did note that there was a 400-level evolution course, but thankfully it was an optional elective. Avoiding the evolution issue was easier than I had thought: I simply skipped taking that elective.</p>

<p>At the start of my third year, with my grades still marginal for medical school, I somehow decided to upgrade into a biology “honors” student. This meant two things: working on an undergraduate research thesis with a faculty member, and attending an “honors seminar” class with other students in the same program.</p>

<p>Experiencing my first taste of research was electrifying: here at last was genuine science! Not long after, my upper-level classes seemed a lot more interesting and relevant, and also much easier. My grades improved dramatically, and medical school looked to be a live option once more – except for the fact that my childhood interest in science had blossomed again.</p>

<h3>Standing against evolution</h3>
<p>The undergraduate thesis seminar class included an assignment that required students to familiarize themselves with the research of one of the professors in the department. As the list of potential faculty and their research interests was read, one caught my attention: the work of <a href="http://www.zoology.ubc.ca/~schluter/" target="_blank">Dolph Schluter</a> on experimental evolution. I decided to take the opportunity to score a few hits on the so-called “theory” by signing up for this topic. What followed can only be described now as a painful memory: full of ignorance and confidence, I trotted out every long-refuted, anti-evolutionary argument in the book (in fact, if memory serves, my “research” was nothing beyond skimming one anti-evolutionary book for its arguments). I remember that the class was quite engaged by the presentation, and there was some  vigorous back-and-forth with some of the students who knew the science better than I because of their research work. I can only imagine what the thesis class faculty supervisor was thinking at the time. The worst part was that Dolph himself arrived early for his own presentation to the class, which was to follow my own. As such, he was able to hear a good portion of my nonsense.</p>

<p>Fortunately for me, Dolph had no interest in what would have been a very easy dressing-down. Rather, he restrained himself to a few words to the rest of the class on their lack of knowledge. Personally, I thought I had scored a victory for the faith, against the evils of evolution.</p>

<p><em>In the next post in this series, I’ll describe my introduction to, and enthusiastic embrace of, the Intelligent Design Movement.</em></p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <description>I find that when many Christians think about the way God created our universe, they often bring a static expectation similar to what we bring to an ordinary statue. It’s as if we assume the physical realm were merely a rigid three&#45;dimensional sculpture, immovable with time.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can still recall the first time I encountered a man performing as a living statue.  His costume, body paint, and utter stillness made him very convincing.  I also recall the eerie feeling I experienced upon first seeing him move. Ordinary statues are, of course, static, but if you hang around a living statue long enough you’re bound to see it move, if only to blink its eyes.  I find that when many Christians think about the way God created our universe, our planet, and the forms of life that dwell on it, they often bring a static expectation similar to what we bring to an ordinary statue.  It’s as if we assume the physical realm were merely a rigid three-dimensional sculpture, immovable with time.</p>

<p>But since time exists, change and development are possible.  The sciences have acquired the tools to “look back” in time and explore our universe’s rich history, so we know that the universe and the life in it do indeed evolve. Through these observations in the natural realm, it’s difficult to avoid the conclusion that God typically prefers to do His work gradually rather than instantaneously.  In what follows, I’d like to briefly explore some of the ways that our universe has been and is evolving over long periods of time and attempt to show that the concept of a God who makes use of long timescales ought to be familiar to us from the story of redemption in scripture.  And like observing a living statue, by staring long enough (in this case millions and billions of years) we are able to see a world that is moving and changing, which hopefully deepens our appreciation for the wonder of God’s dynamic creative acts.</p>

<h3>God’s use of time in the physical realm</h3>

<p>The sense of enjoyment that comes from studying the dynamically evolving universe that God has created is similar to that of a gardener when he or she watches a seed grow into a mature plant.  And when considering the history of the cosmos, the analogy of a seed in a garden is an apt one, with each branch of science reinforcing and corroborating the story that is told.</p>

<p>From physics we learn that all the matter and energy that now exists in our universe originated in a hot, dense state (something akin to a primordial seed) which burst forth and has been expanding and cooling ever since.  Myriads of stars have gone through the process of forming, burning, and dying, with many exploding in what's called a supernova.  These long stellar life cycles have been going on for billions of years and are responsible for "cooking up" and dispersing all the atomic elements necessary for forming planets like Earth and creatures like us.</p>

<p>Once our planet formed, we know from geology and its theory of plate tectonics that the earth's crust has been in a constant (but very slow) process of moving and changing, shifting even the continents around over many millions of years and forming majestic mountains, islands, and other geological features.  The picture becomes even more fascinating when biology enters the landscape, describing how life has slowly developed, also over many millions of years, beginning from the simplest of organisms and progressing all the way to beings like us, of such complexity that we are able to reflect on and enjoy the entire display.</p>

<p>But how do we know all this, since our short lives don’t allow us to see these long drawn out processes in action? I see these same sciences as a great gift from God that allow us to explore beyond the bounds of our own time.  For instance, when astrophysicists look up into the night sky, they see light that has taken millions or even billions of years to reach us, meaning that they are literally looking at what our universe looked like in the distant past.  Geologists look back in time by studying layers of rock, sediment, or ice. They have even found evidence that the earth's magnetic field has flipped many times over the course of the Earth's history so that even the direction our trusty compasses point isn’t constant!  Biologists have the fossil record and genetics as a means of exploring the rich and fascinating history of life, teaching us about the ancestors of modern humans as well as exotic creatures such as dinosaurs.  All around us the physical world is shifting, changing, and unfolding in an extraordinary way, teaching us that God, the ultimate Gardener, is pleased to watch his creation grow and mature gradually.</p>

<h3>God's use of time in redemption up to Jesus</h3>

<p>A good number of Christians find the idea of God using long maturation times in creation threatening to their understanding of scripture.  But what we learn about God from scripture is not inconsistent with a God who works over long timescales.  We see this if we look at the grand meta-narrative of the entire Bible, of which I’ll cover a few highlights to demonstrate my point.</p>

<p>After humans made a mess of their intended role in the created order, God desired to restore it and put it right.  And like what we learn from the sciences about the evolution of the universe, He decided to take his time about it.  God began his redeeming work with a promise to use Abraham's family to be a blessing to the entire world (Gen. 12:1).  This was a promise that was ultimately fulfilled in Jesus nearly two millennia later.  Now if God had been in a hurry, he might simply have allowed Sarah to conceive by the Holy Spirit and bring forth Jesus directly.  But instead, he decided to take the scenic route, working through Abraham’s seed, including Jacob, Moses, David, and others until the time was right for Jesus.</p>

<p>As time went on and God’s people developed into a nation, David rose to the throne and God made another promise -- that of perpetual kingship to David’s line (2 Sam 7:13).  This was another opportune time for Jesus to be born, take the throne, and fulfill the promise.  But again we find God taking his time, allowing the kingdom to be divided and eventually conquered, and God’s people sent into a long exile, until the time was right for Jesus, nearly a millennium after David.</p>

<h3>God's use of time in redemption after Jesus</h3>

<p>The Christian faith holds that in the “fullness of time” (Gal. 4:4) God sent Jesus as the individual in whom all the promises of God ultimately converged.  Just as God's physical creation developed slowly and eventually brought forth our earth and life and humanity, so God's purposes slowly unfold and culminate in Jesus, the descendant of Abraham and David who becomes the blessing to the world.</p> 

<p>But here again is another case that demonstrates the point I’m attempting to make.  Even the blessing that Jesus comes to announce and inaugurate develops slowly and dynamically – God, the Gardener, continues to slowly cultivate. Jesus himself teaches us to expect this to be the case in parables about the kingdom such as that of the mustard seed (Mark 4:30-32).  Thus, the world isn’t automatically cured of its ills after Jesus’ resurrection.  Both then and now, evil, sin, and injustice still exist and there is much that remains to be redeemed. The church is called to continue living in this meta-narrative until we reach the second climax: when Jesus reappears and ushers in the fullness of the new heavens and new earth.</p>

<p>A similar point can be made about God’s redemptive work in the lives of individual Christians as well.  God forms each of his children over time through our relationships, our experiences, the trials we encounter, and the service we render.  “I am the vine, you are the branches”, says Jesus in John 15:5.  God is “growing us” as individuals and as every Christian knows from experience, the maturing process often seems very long indeed.</p>

<p>In conclusion, this brief survey has shown a consistent picture of how God works in his creation. In the cosmos, in the evolution of life, in the redemption of the world, and in the redemption of individuals, God sees fit to use long timescales for accomplishing his purposes. Moreover, with the similarities between what we learn of God from nature and from scripture, Christians needn’t react defensively to what science tells us about the history of the cosmos.  Instead, we can indulge in the opportunity to marvel at the ever continuing work of God the Gardener, both in His dynamic creation and His dynamic acts of redemption.</p>

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        <description>Media&#45;hungry atheist, creationist and religious fundamentalist provocateurs have dominated the science and religion narrative for the past decade. A recently published large&#45;scale survey of college students, however, finds that the call to arms has fallen on deaf ears.</description>
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<p>Media-hungry atheist, creationist and religious fundamentalist provocateurs have successfully dominated the science and religion narrative for the past decade or so. In doing so, they have created the false impression of an ongoing unavoidable war between the two camps. A recently published large-scale survey of college students, however, finds that the call to arms has fallen on deaf ears. For the vast majority of American university students, there simply is no conflict between science and religion.</p>

<p>Christopher Scheitle, a Penn State sociologist, analyzed survey data from more than 10,000 students at over 200 colleges and universities across America (<em>Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion</em> 50, p. 175). The students were surveyed both as freshman and juniors so that attitudinal change over the course of their university years could be assessed. Among the many items on the survey was one that asked the following: "For me, the relationship between science and religion is one of..." Four possible responses were provided: (1) Conflict -- I consider myself to be on the side of science, (2) Conflict -- I consider myself to be on the side of religion, (3) Independence - science and religion refer to different aspects of reality and (4) Collaboration -- each can be used to support the other. Students were also asked about their religious beliefs and affiliations and their course of study (i.e. major).</p>

<p>Results showed that nearly 70 percent of college freshman saw the science/religion relationship as one of either independence or collaboration. The minority who saw science and religion in conflict were roughly evenly split between those who sided with religion (17 percent) and those who sided with science (14 percent). Even more interesting was the fact that when students changed their opinion over time, the most likely change was moving from a conflict position to one of non-conflict (either independence or collaboration). For example, 70 percent of those who as freshmen said they were on "religion's side" had changed to a non-conflict position by the time they were juniors. Similarly, 46 percent of freshmen who said they were on "science's side" had adopted a non-conflict position by the time they were juniors. By contrast, only 13 percent of freshman who took a non-conflict position changed to one of conflict by their junior year (5 percent to religion's side, 8 percent to the side of science). For most students, more education means less science/religion conflict, not more.</p>

<p>The above results also reflect the fact that the pro-science point of view appears to be more entrenched than the pro-religion point of view. In other words, once someone has adopted "science's side" in a perceived science and religion conflict, it is harder to move them from this position compared to when someone has adopted "religion's side." Exactly how to interpret this is unclear. Are religious people actually less dogmatic on the issue? Maybe. Maybe the evidence more clearly confirms the rightness of the "science" side and this is why fewer people switch. Then again, if the evidence so clearly supports the "science side" then why don't the majority of people see a conflict to begin with, and why do nearly half of the pro-science folks defect over time?</p>

<p>The apparent greater willingness of "religion side" students to re-examine their stance can also be seen in another interesting finding. Students at religious schools were actually less likely to claim to be on "religion's side" than students at secular schools. This pattern held true even after the results were adjusted for the students' degree of religious commitment and religious conservatism. The author suggests that students at religious schools may feel less threatened than equally religious students at a secular school and that the conflict narrative may be more salient at secular schools.</p>

<p>The breakdown of findings by major also showed some interesting trends. Business and education students were most likely to adopt a conflict approach, with nearly 40 percent doing so, most of whom claimed a pro-religion stance. The conflict approach was endorsed by just under 30 percent of natural science, math and engineering, social science, and arts and humanities students. However, while the majority of "conflict" students in natural science, math and engineering sided with science, the majority of arts, humanitie, and social science students sided with religion. While it is important to keep in mind that most students of all majors saw no conflict, this pattern across majors was somewhat troubling to the author:</p>

<blockquote><p>"The finding that scientists and engineers are among the most likely to have a pro-science conflict perspective could mean that some of the most influential voices in these public debates might be more likely to fuel the debates than attenuate them. Similarly, future educators are among the most likely to hold a pro-religion conflict perspective. Given that classrooms and school boards have been one of the central forums for the struggle over religion and science, this does not bode well for a reduction of those struggles" (p. 185).</p></blockquote>

<p>A shrill alarm cry naturally attracts attention and the few extreme voices promoting a science and religion conflict have taken full advantage of this. Seeking common ground or respecting distinct domains are not sexy, but this is where the majority of educated people are when it comes to science and religion. As the author of this survey points out, the non-conflict position firmly established among college students is only a reflection of what has already been found for most working scientists.</p>

<p>The majority position is not always the right one. It is not always the wrong one either. But one is justified in being wary of those who promote conflict (whether in science and religion or in politics, society, etc.) when: (a) it not obvious to most people why the conflict is necessary and (b) those promoting it have something to gain by doing so. Crass opportunism could be afoot just as easily as sincere disagreement.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <description>Biologist and BioLogos Senior Fellow Denis Venema examines the interaction between RTB literature and several lines of genetics&#45;based evidence for common ancestry. In so doing, he also addresses the scientific robustness and reliability of the RTB model.</description>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 02 May 11 19:02:57 -0700</pubDate>
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        <description>Philosopher Robert Bishop explores the Biblical doctrine of creation, which he describes as &quot;perhaps one of the most helpful pieces of theology for thinking about science&quot;, and describes why the doctrine needs to be recovered from narrower, contemporary interpretations of creation.</description>
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        <description>Robert C. Bishop explains that many believe two things about creation: that the universe was created out of nothing by God and that he accomplished this in six days. This overly simplistic view does not do the robust Doctrine of Creation (DoC) justice, and it unnecessarily hinders much of the dialogue between evolution and Christianity. Bishop “recovers” the DoC by exploring the limitations of creation, God’s sovereignty in the process, God’s Trinitarian activity and ongoing purpose for his creatures, and the salvation of creation in space and time.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="intro">This is the first post in a series taken from Robert Bishop's scholarly essay "Recovering the Doctrine of Creation: A Theological View of Science", which can be downloaded <a href="http://biologos.org/uploads/static-content/bishop_white_paper.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>

<p>In teaching at an evangelical liberal arts college that holds firmly to the inspiration and authority of Scripture, I find most of my students think the biblical doctrine of creation (DoC) is limited to two points: (1) God created out of nothing (<em>ex nihilo</em>) and (2) God created the world in six days (whatever they think “days” is supposed to mean!). My students are fairly representative of contemporary evangelicals’ understanding of the DoC. This contemporary understanding is problematic, however, because it is much narrower than the full doctrine as it was developed by the Patristic fathers. Given that the DoC is perhaps one of the most helpful pieces of theology for thinking about science, it’s worthwhile recovering it in all its glory. What follows over the next few parts of this blog is a brief tour through the elements of this amazing doctrine.</p>

<p>Two preliminary comments to get started. First, we have a tendency to cut up doctrines into chunks like the DoC, the doctrine of providence, the doctrine of salvation, the doctrine of eschatology, etc. Nevertheless, we need to realize that this is somewhat artificial on our part as we strive to understand one grand doctrine of God and His activity. All of these doctrines interpenetrate and inform each other as can be seen in what follows (e.g. much of God’s ongoing work of creation is continuous with His providence in creation; likewise, if God hadn’t created, there would be no providence, salvation or sanctification).</p>

<p>Second, all of the elements composing the DoC have been hard fought, won and then lost over and over in the history of Christian thought. If many of the following elements seem surprising or new to you, that’s largely because since the eighteenth century the DoC has suffered significant decline such that contemporary Christians usually only have a very atrophied version of the doctrine in mind when they think about creation, God’s work in creation, and science.<sup>1</sup></p>

<h3>Creator/Creature Distinction</h3>
<p>Let’s start with the creator/creature distinction, something that is familiar to us and that we recognize as part of the DoC when we think about it. This distinction actually has some important yet often missed implications. For example, the distinction implies that God intends for creation to be something different from rather than similar to Him. God didn’t make creation with the same infinite being or nature as Himself. Creation’s being distinct from God implies it is to be distinctly <em>itself</em>, literally to become uniquely what God calls it to be in Christ.</p>

<p>Moreover, the creator/creature distinction implies that all of creation is valued—it has the kind of nature and functionality God intended it to have. After all, “God saw all that he had made and it was very good” (Gen. 1:31), is a proclamation of His valuing all of creation. The Hebrew term in Genesis 1 and 2, <em>tob</em>, often translated as “good,” has a variety of meanings in different contexts including moral goodness and craftsmanship. However, it is commonly used in the OT in the sense of functioning properly. For example, “It is not good [<em>tob</em>] for the human [<em>adam</em>] to be alone, I shall make him a sustainer beside him” (Gen. 2:18). The man isn’t fully functioning without a sustainer appropriate to his created nature. So the repeating refrains of “good” in Genesis 1 and 2 primarily mean value, as in properly functioning or working as intended, fulfilling assigned purposes. From the beginning, God is telling us that creation does—and will do—what He intends.</p>

<p>Moreover, we see God’s valuation of creation especially in Jesus’ incarnation: what higher affirmation could there be of the value of the material order than the second person of the Trinity taking on the material nature of creation and inhabiting its order, an order that Jesus Himself established and blessed in the beginning?</p>

<p>A final implication of the creator/creature distinction is that creation has what theologians call <em>contingent rationality</em>. Creation is contingent in two senses: (1) it is utterly dependent on God such that if Christ ceased sustaining creation it would disappear instantly and (2) God could have made any kind of creation He wanted but chose to make this particular creation. God didn’t need or have to create anything. He was under no compulsion or necessity. Rather, being a loving communion of three persons, out of the overflow of that love God brought into existence a particular kind of creation for His glory and for its own sake. Furthermore, creation has its own rationality, its own particular order, structure and functionality, which is at least partially intelligible to us.</p>

<p>The creator/creature distinction has implications for science as well. First, since creation is so valuable to God, its study is a worthwhile human activity. Second, the contingent rationality of the created order is what science seeks to uncover and understand (whether or not scientists realize that both this order and its intelligibility are good gifts from God).</p>

<h3><em>Ex Nihilo</em> Creation</h3>
<p>That creation was made <em>ex nihilo</em>—literally out of absolute nothing—is implied by the creator/creature distinction. The Patristic fathers inferred the <em>ex nihilo</em> nature of creation from this distinction and various passages like John 1:1-3, 1 Cor. 8:6, Col. 1:16, Heb. 11:3, Rev. 4:11 in their struggle with ancient Greek natural philosophy (the latter maintained that matter was eternal). This element of the DoC was not easy to achieve and required the Patristics to “think away” what was false from the Greek philosophical ideas that so permeated their world and their education.</p>

<p>The theological significance of <em>ex nihilo</em> creation is hard to overestimate. For one thing it protects God’s sovereignty showing us that all things in creation are subject to Him. Moreover, it distinguishes God’s creative activity from all other religious creation stories. There is no pre-existent matter giving rise to divinities as in the other ancient Near East creation accounts. Creation is pictured as originating in covenantal love (Jer. 33:25) rather than conflicts among deities. God is never once seen to be struggling to shape recalcitrant matter (a constant theme in other ancient Near East creation accounts).</p>

<p>Another important implication of <em>ex nihilo</em> creation is that there can be no creation out of nothing without purpose. Creation was no accident on God’s part. He has reasons for what He’s doing, one of which is for creation to become what God destines it to be in Christ (more in part 3).</p>

<p>Finally, a creation made out of nothing is particularly fragile! Its tendency is to always fall back into nothing meaning that creation requires God’s constant preserving care. Here, there is a clear connection between God’s creating out of nothing and His general providence sustaining the being and order of creation.</p>

<h3>Sovereignty in Creation</h3>
<p>God’s sovereignty in creation contrasts with all the ancient creation myths and cosmologies, where divinities are always struggling with each other and with recalcitrant matter. Instead, the Bible pictures God as in control of all things: “See, the Sovereign LORD comes with power and his arm rules for Him” (Is. 40:10a), “He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in” (Is. 40:22b), and</p>

<blockquote><p>Blessed are you, O LORD, the God of Israel our father, forever and ever. Yours, O LORD, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the victory and the majesty, for all that is in the heavens and in the earth is yours. Yours is the kingdom, O LORD, and you are exalted as head above all. Both riches and honor come from you, and you rule over all (I Chron. 29: 11-12a).</p></blockquote>

<p>From Genesis 1 to Revelations 22, God is king and ruler over all! One of the most relevant implications of this for thinking about science: God rules over all natural processes! Therefore, anything a scientist says about processes in creation can only be describing something that is sustained by God and subject to His sovereignty.</p>

<h3>Notes</h3>
<p>1. Although not his main theme, James Turner’s masterful history, <em>Without God, Without Creed: The Origins of Unbelief in America</em>, Johns Hopkins University Press (1986), reveals much of the DoC’s decline during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <title>Series: A Tale of Three Creationists</title>
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        <description>In this three part series, Dennis Venema introduces and highlights Todd Wodd—a biologist who validates evolution as a credible theory, yet rejects the theory itself on a Biblical basis. In other words, Wood is a Young Earth Creationist. Despite their different perspectives, however, both he and Venema offer similar scientific critiques of arguments made by Reasons To Believe (RTB) including their view that physical, anatomical and genetic similarities as well as shared pseudogenes do not imply common ancestry between two organisms. The careful evaluations made by both Venema and Wood demonstrate the scientific weaknesses in RTB’s theories.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="intro">In <a href="http://biologos.org/blog/a-tale-of-three-creationists-part-1/">part one</a> of this series, I introduced Todd Wood (pictured at right),  a controversial Young Earth Creationist scholar and faculty member at Bryan College. In this post, I discuss some of Todd’s previous critiques of the Old Earth Creationist organization Reasons to Believe, and his recent blog series examining the exchange between myself and Fazale Rana.</p>

<p>Since his pivotal 2006 paper, Todd has continued to evaluate and respond to arguments against human common ancestry brought forth by other creationists. One group that is frequently the target of Todd’s criticism is the Old-Earth Creationist group <em>Reasons to Believe</em>, (RTB) a group that I have recently critiqued as well (see <a href="http://biologos.org/blog/an-evangelical-geneticists-critique-of-reasons-to-believe-pt-1/">here</a>  and <a href="http://biologos.org/blog/an-evangelical-geneticists-critique-of-reasons-to-believe-pt-2/">here</a>). The striking genetic similarities between humans and chimpanzees presents a difficulty for the RTB view that humans were directly created by God apart from common ancestry with other species. One <a href="http://www.reasons.org/bible-and-brains-explain-human-chimp-similarities" target="_blank">RTB rationalization</a> for the evidence is that since humans and other life are formed from the dust of the ground in the Genesis narratives, such similarities are to be expected:</p>

<blockquote><p>Genesis 2:7 describes the creation of Adam and states that God “formed the man from the dust of the ground.” The verb “formed” is translated from the original Hebrew verb yasar, which means “to form,” “to fashion,” or “to produce.” Genesis 2:19 uses yasar to describe God’s work to form “out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air.” Together, these verses indicate that both man and animals were fashioned by the Creator from the same substance. It follows, then, that anatomical, physiological, biochemical, and genetic similarities should exist between humans and other animals, including the “99% genetic similarity” between humans and chimpanzees.</p></blockquote>

<p>While RTB views this as a reasonable line of argument, Todd does not. The <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2010/05/neandertal-non-sequitur.html" target="_blank">fatal flaw</a>, as both Todd and I see it, is that this rationalization does not explain the <em>pattern</em> of biological similarity we see in nature:</p>

<blockquote><p>Being created by one God would be a good reason for some degree of similarity to exist. Likewise, being created to occupy the same world or to participate in the same ecosystem would also necessitate some biological similarity. These types of considerations could explain why all living things use the same basic biochemical building blocks (amino acids, nucleotides, etc.), for example.</p>

<p>What these considerations do not explain is the pattern of similarity. This is quite a different problem that is easy to confuse with the fact of similarity. What we're dealing with in creation is not just bare similarity or random similarity. There is a definite pattern, and it's a pattern that Darwin says is uniquely explained by the inference of common ancestry …</p>

<p>When are building materials sufficient to justify a conclusion that things built will be strongly similar in form? If I get two homework assignments that are identical word-for-word, I do not conclude that the similarity is inevitable given that they're both written in English.</p></blockquote>

<p>In other words, RTB is content to present a weak argument they feel is theologically satisfying even if it fails to grapple with the compelling pattern that scientists observe throughout nature. Todd, however, isn’t having any of it. He would rather understand the pattern than find ways to explain it away.</p>

<p>Given my appreciation for Todd and his approach, I was pleased to discover Todd’s <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-1.html" target="_blank">blog series</a> examining my recent critiques (see <a href="http://biologos.org/blog/an-evangelical-geneticists-critique-of-reasons-to-believe-pt-1/">here</a>  and <a href="http://biologos.org/blog/an-evangelical-geneticists-critique-of-reasons-to-believe-pt-2/">here</a>)  of <em>Reasons to Believe</em>’s “Testable Creation Model”. I found several aspects of RTB’s response to be inadequate, as I will explain below. Still, when one is personally invested in a discussion it can be difficult to evaluate a rebuttal objectively. Far better to have another, more impartial individual look it over and offer their thoughts.  Todd is an ideal candidate for this. He is eminently qualified to evaluate the science, he is familiar with the RTB literature, and, since he is a Young-Earth Creationist, he certainly cannot be accused of a pro-evolutionary bias.</p>

<p>Todd <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-1.html" target="_blank">starts the series</a> by explaining his motivations:</p>

<blockquote><p>In my last post before Christmas, I indicated that I would be discussing Reasons to Believe in my next posts. Unfortunately, what started as a single response to some of Fuz Rana's recent assertions about the chimpanzee genome has turned into a long series of posts. Having written almost the entire series of posts already, I've become discouraged by the length and detail of my criticisms. I have even debated whether or not I should bother posting what I've written, since I'm sure it will be either ignored by RTB or misconstrued as personal attack or insult. Despite that, though, I do think I have a duty to the public and to the truth to set the record straight on a topic that I'm familiar with: comparative primate genomics.</p></blockquote>

<p>In his first post, Todd addressed the accusation that my critique was merely an <em>ad hominem</em> attack on RTB. In my critique, I was careful not to accuse RTB of wrongdoing. That is certainly one possible explanation for the data I laid out in the original critique, but it is not the only explanation. My intent was to make the data accessible to non-specialists and allow them to see what a biologist sees when they look at the RTB model. So, I found this response from RTB to be somewhat puzzling. Todd’s evaluation was similar to mine:</p>

<blockquote><p>In his first response to Venema's post, Rana wrote,</p>

<blockquote><p>...instead of discussing the scientific weaknesses of our approach, Venema chose to launch an <em>ad hominem</em> attack against me and Hugh Ross, impugning our integrity as scientists and scholars.</p></blockquote>

<p>I think that interpretation is pretty debatable. Venema raised some very important questions … about the way RTB has represented published research. He never accused anyone at RTB of any specific wrongdoing or incompetence. By dismissing these issues as just a personal "attack," I would say that Rana is far more guilty of <em>argumentum ad hominem</em> than Venema ever was.</p></blockquote>

<p>An additional point is that critiquing a model for failing to adequately address the scientific literature is very much a <em>scientific</em> critique. If I submit a scientific paper for publication that makes claims clearly against the published literature, while simultaneously omitting any discussion of the relevant research, the reviewers would, without a doubt, reject my work. That’s not an <em>ad hominem</em> attack on their part, it’s pointing out a scientific weakness in my scholarship. The RTB model, as published in their major books, makes no mention of the key paper comparing the human and chimpanzee genomes. The most recent RTB book, <em>More Than a Theory</em>, even claims that a full-genome comparison has never been done. Moreover, no explanation or evidence is given to back up these assertions. Regardless of the reasons for these omissions, the fact remains that they are a serious scientific shortcoming for the RTB model.</p>

<p>Todd’s thorough analysis eventually spanned eight posts on his blog, and links to each post are provided below for those interested in the details. Having gone over RTB’s response with a fine-toothed comb, Todd offers some conclusions for RTB to consider:</p>

<blockquote><p>Venema and I have documented a sad but consistent and ongoing pattern of erroneous summaries of published works on the part of RTB (Rana and Ross, but mostly Rana). There's really no way to deny these mistakes have been made or to explain them away, so what are you going to do about them? I recommend apologizing for the mistakes, correcting them if you can, and instituting some kind of serious fact-checking filter on everything you publish.</p></blockquote>

<p>Todd <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-8.html" target="_blank">goes on</a> to challenge RTB to live up to their stated invitation for serious critique of their model:</p>

<blockquote><p>Rana claimed that "We do invite serious critique of our model (both theological and scientific). We believe that critical evaluation of our ideas will only improve our case for biblical creation." Fine. Venema did that in his critique. You ignored a number of important points he raised and instead mischaracterized his critique as a personal attack, which it was not. I've also offered a serious critique in the fourth post of this series, where I tested Rana's hypothesis that the unaligned portions of the chimp genome are too different to align. Will you ignore that as well? If so, please stop saying that you "invite serious critique" of the RTB model.</p></blockquote>

<p>I’m hopeful that RTB won’t ignore what Todd has to say. Todd’s blog might not get a huge amount of traffic, but he is an important voice in this discussion. Hopefully posting this here on Biologos will raise Todd’s visibility with those who need to hear what he has to say most: RTB supporters. Folks, when two Christian geneticists who hold radically different views of creation agree that the RTB model has serious scientific flaws, it’s time to ask hard questions.</p>

<strong><p>Todd’s complete blog series can be found here (Parts <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-1.html" target="_blank">1</a>, <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-2.html" target="_blank">2</a>, <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-3.html" target="_blank">3</a>, <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-4.html" target="_blank">4</a>, <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-5.html" target="_blank">5</a>, <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-6.html" target="_blank">6</a>, <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-7_10.html" target="_blank">7</a>, <a href="http://toddcwood.blogspot.com/2011/01/rtb-and-chimp-genome-part-8.html" target="_blank">8</a>)</p></strong>]]></content:encoded>
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        <dc:creator>Dennis Venema</dc:creator>
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        <title>When Appearances Are Deceiving</title>
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        <description>“That just doesn’t sound right.”  Ever since I was a kid, that was my gut reaction to those well&#45;meaning people in my church and school who told me that despite what many in the sciences were saying, the earth and the entire universe were actually of relatively recent manufacture.</description>
        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“That just doesn’t sound right.” </p>

<p>At one time or another, we have all had this reaction to something someone said to us. Usually what we indicate by saying this is that we sense intuitively that <em>something</em> is amiss in what was just communicated to us but we cannot at the moment lay our finger on just what that “something” is.</p>

<p>Ever since I was a kid, that was my gut reaction to those well-meaning people in my church and school who told me that despite what many in the sciences were saying, the earth and the entire universe were actually of relatively recent manufacture (say, on the order of 10,000 years of age or so). Yes, there are rocks on the earth that test out to be millions of years old but you must understand: all of those things popped into existence in one fell swoop already bearing the marks of a certain age. God created the universe in motion with the appearance of age. It looks old but it isn’t. Already on his first night in Eden, Adam was able to see stars that we can now measure to be so far away that their light would take millions of years to get here. But because God created things already in motion, that light hit Adam’s eyeballs immediately even though the universe was a scant six days old.</p>

<p>That never sounded right to me, but one could conceive of it. Doing such a thing would hardly be beyond an almighty God’s abilities. God could snap his fingers and create any state of being he wanted. Still, something about the whole “appearance of age” scheme nettled. After all, what God <em>could</em> do cannot trump what a loving and true God <em>would</em> do.</p>

<p>My “Ah-Ha” moment that confirmed my intuition that <em>something</em> was wrong here came a few years ago when my colleague, Deborah Haarsma, gave a guest lecture in a theology and science course I was teaching. At one point Deb said to the class that we must remember that the light that streams to us from stars and galaxies and nebulae is not just generic light—these streams of light tell a story. They represent cosmic history. All of that light is the collective memory of the cosmos. It tells us about when stars were born. It tells us about when stars matured. It tells us about when stars died (and the stages they went through en route to their deaths). Light tells a story. It tells the story of the universe.</p>

<p>As a preacher, I have spent years training myself to think analogically. Those of us who preach for a living (and those of us who teach for a living) know that one of our main tasks is to take complicated doctrines, theories, or concepts and try to make them plainer and easier to understand by way of analogy. We are constantly saying, “Think of this idea this way . . . “ or “I know this portion of theology sounds difficult to grasp but what if you realize that it is actually a little like this . . .”</p>

<p>Deb’s helpful comment that beams of light tell the universe’s story finally helped me come up with the analogy that made me hit on the “something” that was wrong with this whole scheme. Ever since then, here is what I have told people in order to convey to them what I believe is wrong with the appearance of age argument.</p>

<p>Saying the universe was created in motion is sort of like this: imagine you are like me, a guy who will turn 47 years of age in March of 2011. As a 47-year-old person, I have almost five decades of memories. I can remember my brother being born when I was four years old. I can remember my mother walking me to kindergarten, my family moving to a new area when I was half-way through second grade, graduating from high school, traveling to Europe for the first time, meeting my wife, and the births of my two children. This memory stream, this history of my life that appears to me in my mind, is clear and vivid and undeniable. There is nothing inside of me or in the ways I retrieve these images to tell me they are anything other than iron-clad truth. This is what has happened to me along the way. This is my story. I’ve even got pictures and videos of all those times. I have other people who were there then, too, and who confirm my memories by sharing their own.</p>

<p>So how would I feel if someone—based on some piece of insight they thought they had allegedly received from the Bible or some other source—told me that in reality Scott Hoezee (and everything else for that matter) had been created in motion starting at my 45th year of life in 2009? Yes, everything about me—every DNA test available, every bone scan or memory scan or any other way by which the medical establishment could determine a person’s chronological age—all of it could confirm my 47 years but . . . my actual life would be but 2 years. So what about all those memories that stream to me from 42 years ago when I started kindergarten or from 19 years ago when my first child was born? What about the pictures, the videos, the others who remember it all, too? Well, they look and sound true but strictly speaking are not. None of those things happened (not in the way the last two years’ worth of stuff happened anyway). Installing those memories (of things that never truly took place) were necessary to make Scott’s appearance of age appear authentic but all of them (all 45 years’ worth of stuff) popped into existence at the same moment Scott did a scant two years ago. The events of the last two years are as real as they appear to me. The stuff from the previous 45 years . . . not so much. </p>

<p>If someone told me that it was God who did this all, I would conclude that God is cruel. That sense of cruelty would only be reinforced in case it were also true that within the human sphere of things, there would be absolutely no way I could know about the falsity of all those memories because in the proper exercise of my mental faculties and in the proper use of medical technologies by which my age could be verified, there would be no earthly reason to doubt the veracity of those memories or of the full 47 years they represent.</p>

<p>I would feel deceived.</p>

<p>The history of the universe—when stars were born, when they died, and other events that come to us in the streams of light that beam toward our planet every day—may seem far less personal than the birth of my first child or my remembering when Mom took me to kindergarten. But if all that cosmic information and history are not true—and if there is no way within the normal exercise of our human abilities to measure things to know any better—then why would God build up a story of the universe’s past life in case none of it (save for the last 10,000 years) ever actually took place but was made only to <em>look</em> as though it took place?</p>

<p>I would not like God to do that to me and the story of my life as I apprehend it. But I don’t like this concept any better when it applies to life beyond myself, either.  
That just doesn’t sound right.</p>

<p>And it isn’t.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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        <dc:creator>Rev. Scott Hoezee</dc:creator>
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